they sound abit like beardies from what people have said about beardies abit more of its "own" dog. I got a dog here, beardy border grey x beardy grey x grey. And he's very beardy temp, but at same time if I ask him to do it now, he will. But never looks for me to give another command, he's abit of a loner, good with dogs unless they try it on. My next dog I think I want just beardy, but an open mind is always good. Thanks for reply.