SHOW US YOUR PATTERDALES

[Apache... 2,588]

A macho image is just a lack of experience.

[dogmandont 10,063]

Ain’t nothing macho about being disappointed about a young dog coming away, I was gifted a bitch pup 5 seasons ago reared and entered like every other terrier dug her on the 4th attempt she then went on to walk away from stuff not be able to find in the easiest of places till I could persevere no more and give her back to the lad that bred her and she continued to do the same till one day it all clicked for her and she’s now his main digging bitch so I understand that with some you have to stick at it. 

[howdeeposxxt 1,449]

So this is how I see it in my little brain. Hypothetically speaking if I was to keep 4 out of a litter.  One morning I decide to take all young dogs out at 18mth and I have 4 digs of similar dept and time, again like I said Hypothetically speaking . So the first terrier goes in and works his quarry and the dig is perfect one hole  I lift him and im very pleased he worked a treat . We move on to the second terrier he goes in and gives it a bit,  works away but I have to dig a couple a holes to get him out but he is there in the end so I lift him im still chuffed he stuck to it. The 3rd terrier goes in meets his quarry I try to locate a spot but he is fannying about not settling then comes out after half hour not looking keen to go back in and looks abit sorry for himself, what goes on in my mind -is ok this guy is taking the piss and i drop an experienced dog and we get the quarry. 3rd terrier im not f***ing happy at all. 4th terrier is brought to a hole he has no interest all he wants ta do is hump the dog beside him or be petted but thats ok in my mind ill give him more time. Bottom line when I go home ill keep the 1st terrier the second terrier and the 4th terrier.  If someone else wants the 3rd one they would be more than welcome to em. Im done now on the subject to many ifs and buts 

Edited January 24, 2019 by howdeeposxxt

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

It’s an open forum for discussion, everyone has different opinions, there’s no need to get so hot under the collar about it. 

Back to your post HowDeep, what I’m trying to say is some terriers can start flying and slowly fade away to rubbish whereas a spooky starter or one that doesn’t look too keen can end up a world beater once the penny drops. Lads are too quick to judge a young terrier on one or two digs, I’d always say give them a until the end of their first season before making hasty decisions IMO.

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

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Edited January 24, 2019 by Rabbit Hunter

[howdeeposxxt 1,449]

7 minutes ago, Rabbit Hunter said:

It’s an open forum for discussion, everyone has different opinions, there’s no need to get so hot under the collar about it. 

Back to your post HowDeep, what I’m trying to say is some terriers can start flying and slowly fade away to rubbish whereas a spooky starter or one that doesn’t look too keen can end up a world beater once the penny drops. Lads are too quick to judge a young terrier on one or two digs, I’d always say give them a until the end of their first season before making hasty decisions IMO.

We should all no that I agree with most of that but if I had a terrier that was of  starting age and came out after working its quarry for me its something I just dont like in a terrier. Im 100% sure im not the only one its how we keep are kennels going it works for us may not for someone else. On too many occasions men where more than glad to take terriers of us in the past with the knowledge that they had walked from an early age and none of them came to a good standard . Half decent but not of a high standard if it aint broke why try to fix it.

Edited January 24, 2019 by howdeeposxxt

[jcb 271]

Wat type or line do you keep howdeep

[howdeeposxxt 1,449]

2 minutes ago, jcb said:

Wat type or line do you keep howdeep

Nothing fancy 

[aaron01 739]

48 minutes ago, howdeeposxxt said:

So this is how I see it in my little brain. Hypothetically speaking if I was to keep 4 out of a litter.  One morning I decide to take all young dogs out at 18mth and I have 4 digs of similar dept and time, again like I said Hypothetically speaking . So the first terrier goes in and works his quarry and the dig is perfect one hole  I lift him and im very pleased he worked a treat . We move on to the second terrier he goes in and gives it a bit,  works away but I have to dig a couple a holes to get him out but he is there in the end so I lift him im still chuffed he stuck to it. The 3rd terrier goes in meets his quarry I try to locate a spot but he is fannying about not settling then comes out after half hour not looking keen to go back in and looks abit sorry for himself, what goes on in my mind -is ok this guy is taking the piss and i drop an experienced dog and we get the quarry. 3rd terrier im not f***ing happy at all. 4th terrier is brought to a hole he has no interest all he wants ta do is hump the dog beside him or be petted but thats ok in my mind ill give him more time. Bottom line when I go home ill keep the 1st terrier the second terrier and the 4th terrier.  If someone else wants the 3rd one they would be more than welcome to em. Im done now on the subject to many ifs and buts 

I’d agree with you per cent but that’s not how your first post came across 

[howdeeposxxt 1,449]

2 minutes ago, aaron01 said:

I’d agree with you per cent but that’s not how your first post came across 

Reading my own post at time I dont like me

[Dig-deep-draw-charlie 2,713]

They are dogs, not robots, they will do it when they are ready not when the owner “thinks” they are 

[dogmandont 10,063]

Discussions like this is what the hunting life is all about for me.

Edited January 24, 2019 by dogmandont

[mr powers 876]

Failing and jacking are 2 diffrent things 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,103]

19 minutes ago, Dig-deep-draw-charlie said:

They are dogs, not robots, they will do it when they are ready not when the owner “thinks” they are 

A good terrierman has a good idea when they are ready but you are right they are not machines 

[Mickle123 886]

1 hour ago, dogmandont said:

Discussions like this is what the hunting life is all about for me.

I agree. Cracking post