mC HULL 18,256 Posted Tuesday at 10:31 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:31 1 minute ago, chartpolski said: Why would it need to be an increase in income tax specifically? Why not a moratorium on overseas aid ? Why not cut all benefits to illegal immigrants ? Why not a tax increase on the likes of Amazon ? Why pay an estimated £35 billion to give away the Chagos Islands ? Or how about cancelling net zero and the huge subsidies and drill for our own oil and frack for our own gas ? There are many ways of increasing military spending. Cheers. Why increase it ? Stop.i5 we are armed with nuclear power so.are good increasing it like the yanks leads to bullying behavior bombing innocents and all around destruction Why not give the people a country to be proud of money well spent instead of it been like a war zone the roads are like Beirut need a tank to drive down some of them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 29,620 Posted Tuesday at 10:35 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:35 19 minutes ago, WILF said: Aircraft flew nearly 15,000 sorties on D-day !!…….Fifteen Thousand !! Let that sink in ! There’s one sortie you should read about; the Vulcan attack on the Falklands runway. It involved dozens of refuelling aircraft and some that actually refuelled the refuellers ! It was basically symbolic, but it let the Argentines know what we were capable of Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul sr 1,046 Posted Tuesday at 10:36 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:36 Tucker Carlson , is worth listening to on this issue . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bob.243 10,334 Posted Tuesday at 10:36 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:36 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul sr 1,046 Posted Tuesday at 10:43 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:43 12 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Why would it need to be an increase in income tax specifically? Why not a moratorium on overseas aid ? Why not cut all benefits to illegal immigrants ? Why not a tax increase on the likes of Amazon ? Why pay an estimated £35 billion to give away the Chagos Islands ? Or how about cancelling net zero and the huge subsidies and drill for our own oil and frack for our own gas ? There are many ways of increasing military spending. Cheers. The big problem is the politicians work for big business, there donors and the Davos class . That is why nothing really changes regardless of how is elected. They certainly don't work for ordinary people . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bendigo 2,151 Posted Tuesday at 10:45 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:45 23 minutes ago, mC HULL said: He's a nuclear power now no more getting terrorised by the west th3 same reason iran want one so this shit there dealing with now can't happen there left alone This had been 25 years in the making i recon. There prepared The yanks set out to ruin Iraq Syria Libya iran only iran still standing and there the terrorists I sit and wonder sometimes are people just programmed off the news with no self thought at all ffs lol While I agree there is an element of that let's not pretend the Islamic Republic of Iran is anything but an extreme Islamist group of nut jobs that don't deserve flattening. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 13,287 Posted Tuesday at 11:12 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:12 1 hour ago, chartpolski said: France sending surface to air missile batteries to defend Cyprus and our air base……. Starmer still not wanting to get involved. Disgraceful and humiliating. Cheers. Starmer, spineless bugger, frightened stiff of Iran lobbing bombs over here, fcucking useless nation as it is, owd trump won't forget starmer faltering [BANNED TEXT] a state we're in eh, energy prices up , everythings up , up yours starmer I dunno [BANNED TEXT] get up to next Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 33,847 Posted Tuesday at 11:27 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:27 19 minutes ago, Bendigo said: While I agree there is an element of that let's not pretend the Islamic Republic of Iran is anything but an extreme Islamist group of nut jobs that don't deserve flattening. Shoot them all don’t care if there friendly or not iran and the Islamic state have been spreading there poison throughout the world for nearly 50 years funding proxy wars and terror groups to do there dirty work now is the time to push Islam back into the dark ages were it beloo 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 18,045 Posted Tuesday at 11:42 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:42 1 hour ago, chartpolski said: Why would it need to be an increase in income tax specifically? Why not a moratorium on overseas aid ? Why not cut all benefits to illegal immigrants ? Why not a tax increase on the likes of Amazon ? Why pay an estimated £35 billion to give away the Chagos Islands ? Or how about cancelling net zero and the huge subsidies and drill for our own oil and frack for our own gas ? There are many ways of increasing military spending. Cheers. It doesn’t. But the fact is it needs to come from somewhere and making it simple like that is useful for displaying the problem. The same argument can be applied to any alternative strategy of funding a bigger military. The same arguments will be faced about using that money for something else. And the same political problems will exist why it’s ’not possible’. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 33,847 Posted Tuesday at 11:45 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:45 2 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: It doesn’t. But the fact is it needs to come from somewhere and making it simple like that is useful for displaying the problem. The same argument can be applied to any alternative strategy of funding a bigger military. The same arguments will be faced about using that money for something else. And the same political problems will exist why it’s ’not possible’. Until we get a real leader like the don that wants to make Briton great again drill baby drill 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 18,045 Posted Tuesday at 11:47 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:47 1 hour ago, WILF said: I don’t think anyone would mind if they didn’t know that gargantuan amounts are already being pissed away on nonsense with the biggest tax take ever ! Theres plenty of money, it’s just being put in the wrong places and given to our enemies! The problem with this is it’s just an excuse not to do it. The entire country, Westminster and the electorate will play political tennis and negligently put off finding the actual money to fund it. So again, whether it’s a simple raise in tax or budgetary overhaul, it won’t happen because the country doesn’t have the appetite for it. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong but that is the reality of our current defence situation in the uk. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 31,656 Posted Tuesday at 11:49 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:49 I like Trump,but......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 18,045 Posted Tuesday at 11:51 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:51 1 minute ago, Greyman said: Until we get a real leader like the don that wants to make Briton great again drill baby drill I genuinely don’t think we have the stomach for it mate. We need twenty years of conservatism to fix the national security and economic problems we have and that won’t happen. The harder the pendulum swings one way the harder it will swing back the other. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 29,620 Posted Tuesday at 11:58 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:58 Just heard that Starmer is “considering” sending HMS Duncan, our only seaworthy Type45 to the Med, but it will take a week to get there ! FFS, the illegals are crossing the Chanel in dinghies faster than that . Also, our only seaworthy cruise missiles capable Astute Class sub is in Australia on a training exercise. Meanwhile the French are redeploying their Charles de Gaul carrier group to the Med and have two frigates allready there and Greece has sent two frigates and aircraft. Where are our two carriers ? Not that it really matters as we don’t have enough aircraft to put on them , enough support ships or enough personnel to man them. What a sorry state of affairs…… Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul sr 1,046 Posted Tuesday at 12:03 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:03 3 minutes ago, mackem said: I like Trump,but......... For 30 years Benjamin mileikowsky , has being saying Iran was months if not weeks away from having a nuclear bomb . In 2015 the (JCPOA) , was agreed ,everyone was happy with this agreement except Israel . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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