WILF 50,437 Posted 11 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 11 hours ago Nadine Dorris…….the same Nadine Dorris who thought up the “Online Safety Act” !! Suella Braverman…….well, I think that one speaks for itself ! Charlatans and incomers !…….we already have that ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 21,717 Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago Getting new talent into the party is going to be a real problem going forward, they are also going to require experienced people who know the job so have little choice but to take people from a limited pool, a big issue of attracting new talent is Farage's strangle hold on the party, talented people have ambitions and the party in its current form kills ambition, accepting Dorris into the party wasn't a good move imo ,it think Farage likes to gloat over the tories, he's taken one of theirs but it's turning a lot of grassroots people off, this may not be popular with some but I think Suella would be a great asset to the party, her legal knowledge around all things ECHR will be a big help moving forward. The reality is a mainstream party is always going to be mainstream and a broadchurch of views, some we are not going to like. Personally I really don't have great faith in any politicians these days, but if the one thing Reform manage to pull off is getting us out of these dead hand treaties that strangle us then I'd be happy with just that as they are the roadblock to us moving forward as a nation. 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,925 Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 7 minutes ago, kanny said: Getting new talent into the party is going to be a real problem going forward, they are also going to require experienced people who know the job so have little choice but to take people from a limited pool, a big issue of attracting new talent is Farage's strangle hold on the party, talented people have ambitions and the party in its current form kills ambition, accepting Dorris into the party wasn't a good move imo ,it think Farage likes to gloat over the tories, he's taken one of theirs but it's turning a lot of grassroots people off, this may not be popular with some but I think Suella would be a great asset to the party, her legal knowledge around all things ECHR will be a big help moving forward. The reality is a mainstream party is always going to be mainstream and a broadchurch of views, some we are not going to like. Personally I really don't have great faith in any politicians these days, but if the one thing Reform manage to pull off is getting us out of these dead hand treaties that strangle us then I'd be happy with just that as they are the roadblock to us moving forward as a nation. Baby steps mate, word is the Reece mog is about to go now he would be an asset I think 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,437 Posted 10 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 26 minutes ago, kanny said: Getting new talent into the party is going to be a real problem going forward, they are also going to require experienced people who know the job so have little choice but to take people from a limited pool, a big issue of attracting new talent is Farage's strangle hold on the party, talented people have ambitions and the party in its current form kills ambition, accepting Dorris into the party wasn't a good move imo ,it think Farage likes to gloat over the tories, he's taken one of theirs but it's turning a lot of grassroots people off, this may not be popular with some but I think Suella would be a great asset to the party, her legal knowledge around all things ECHR will be a big help moving forward. The reality is a mainstream party is always going to be mainstream and a broadchurch of views, some we are not going to like. Personally I really don't have great faith in any politicians these days, but if the one thing Reform manage to pull off is getting us out of these dead hand treaties that strangle us then I'd be happy with just that as they are the roadblock to us moving forward as a nation. 100 % Reasonable view mate. One thing that struck me in that is one I read or hear all the time and that is the phrase “experienced people”……this isn’t a dig at what you wrote it’s just what I think, but I always think “Experienced at what ?” Experienced at f***ing the gaff up ? Experienced at totally betraying everyone ? Experienced at taxing everyone into oblivion ? Experienced at the genocide of indigenous British people ? What exactly are these people Experinced at ?……f**k me, I’d rather have people who didn’t understand any of that. Edited 10 hours ago by WILF 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 7,959 Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Greyman said: Baby steps mate, word is the Reece mog is about to go now he would be an asset I think I'm not sure about Reece mogg he's a establishment man, born into it, vehemently defending the worst of the monarchy. I'd rather see some of the other members of the Brexit lot sign up . Also be good to see if they bring in specialists following the trump model. Trump has been a true trailblazer , he's managed to stem mass migration, return illegal criminals, go to war with cartels , stop Iran in their tracks, increase European defence spending , strengthen NATO and the USA , it'll be quite exciting or certainly interesting political times coming to our shores. We really need trump or Vance in power as an allied when we begin to overhaul to give us some leverage against what will be a difficult time with EU France and Germany. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,925 Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Borr said: I'm not sure about Reece mogg he's an establishment man, born into it, vehemently defending the worst of the monarchy. I'd rather see some of the other members of the Brexit lot sign up . Also be good to see if they bring in specialists following the trump model. Trump has been a true trailblazer , he's managed to stem mass migration, return illegal criminals, go to war with cartels , stop Iran in their tracks, increase European defence spending , strengthen NATO and the USA , it'll be quite exciting or certainly interesting political times coming to our shores. We really need trump or Vance in power as an allied when we begin to overhaul to give us some leverage against what will be a difficult time with EU France and Germany. He’s very much on the right and part of that is defending the monarchy the present lot would do away with them and though I’m not a royalist in anyway shape or form it’s still a big part of our history and heritage as an establishment totally agree regarding needing a republican ally if and when they win 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 21,717 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, WILF said: 100 % Reasonable view mate. One thing that struck me in that is one I read or hear all the time and that is the phrase “experienced people”……this isn’t a dig at what you wrote it’s just what I think, but I always think “Experienced at what ?” Experienced at f***ing the gaff up ? Experienced at totally betraying everyone ? Experienced at taxing everyone into oblivion ? Experienced at the genocide of indigenous British people ? What exactly are these people Experinced at ?……f**k me, I’d rather have people who didn’t understand any of that. Yeah i get that too I was more referring to people who know the parliament workings , the traps and pitfalls,it's a complicated game ,that said i can count on one hand the people I'd accept moving over. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ditchman 3,476 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago if reece mogg was accepted into reform ...they would loose 30% of the membership..........mogg is everything the conservertive party is known for.... ontop of that he is a queitly arrogant sloth......... and it would start to turn Reform into con' 2.1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mel b 3,737 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, ditchman said: if reece mogg was accepted into reform ...they would loose 30% of the membership..........mogg is everything the conservertive party is known for.... ontop of that he is a queitly arrogant sloth......... and it would start to turn Reform into con' 2.1 Bang on the money . Reform would instantly lose my vote if they brought him into the fold . He's everything that I despise about conservative party. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,925 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 40 minutes ago, mel b said: Bang on the money . Reform would instantly lose my vote if they brought him into the fold . He's everything that I despise about conservative party. What a nationalist and patriot I think he should have led the Tory’s and we may not of got this bad jmho of course Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 21,717 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago He isn't joining Reform...... Of course he thinks they should work together lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 28,062 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) I don’t think Mogg will join Reform. If he did it would be the death knell for the Conservatives; he is the epitome of a Tory, if he can’t believe in them anymore, they are finished. Cheers. Edited 4 hours ago by chartpolski 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.357shooter 1,378 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago This is a waste of time even talking about this shower of shite . reform can do nothing as the money men will not let them . country is ducked.have been looking around my little estate and every other face is brown ffs.things are going to get a lot worse as tax will increase to pay for this invasion . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 7,959 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 19 minutes ago, .357shooter said: This is a waste of time even talking about this shower of shite . reform can do nothing as the money men will not let them . country is ducked.have been looking around my little estate and every other face is brown ffs.things are going to get a lot worse as tax will increase to pay for this invasion . Got to have hope mate, I think reform will be the last party to be given a chance to sort out the invasion, after that it will be a more hands on approach by the British public. Either way is a win..... Edited 3 hours ago by Borr 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,637 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Am I wrong or is it all tories who lost their seats that are joining reform?. I'd be more inclined to trust an elected tory just now who joined rather than the ones kicked out and unlikely to get back in as tories. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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