Dave Courtney dead

[Welsh_red 4,309]

53 minutes ago, mackem said:

Yup this year there’s 2.85 million millionaires in the UK,most of that will be assets,property is the earner.

making cash from crime,I wouldn’t think it would be that difficult,what’s difficult is keeping it I would guess,fast paced lifestyles cost a bit to maintain,Courtney was an entertainer,the cheerful cheeky cockney criminal,self publicist,I still remember his rapper wife singing that dreadful song lauding his exploits on Trisha

I remember seeing the trisha bit on YouTube years ago 

[mackem 23,825]

2 minutes ago, Welsh_red said:

I remember seeing the trisha bit on YouTube years ago 

It was a black lady Jen pinto?and her twin I think,bad rappers,I remember the opening verse went something like….He is dave…Dave C…..

i wish I could find the song,the lyrics were absolutely terrible.

[gnasher16 29,664]

1 hour ago, mackem said:

Yup this year there’s 2.85 million millionaires in the UK,most of that will be assets,property is the earner.

making cash from crime,I wouldn’t think it would be that difficult,what’s difficult is keeping it I would guess,fast paced lifestyles cost a bit to maintain,Courtney was an entertainer,the cheerful cheeky cockney criminal,self publicist,I still remember his rapper wife singing that dreadful song lauding his exploits on Trisha

I meant in terms of legalising it as opposed to spending it .....once the poca get their claws in you best have all your shit together and your legal bods on hand.

But yes i suppose theres that as well.

 

Edited November 2, 2023 by gnasher16

[DIDO.1 20,891]

I liked Dave Courtney....he was a bit like me....."liked to pretend he had a champagne lifestyle but really had a prosseco income"

[Borr 4,502]

4 hours ago, DIDO.1 said:

I liked Dave Courtney....he was a bit like me....."liked to pretend he had a champagne lifestyle but really had a prosseco income"

I can see the similarities.....

[low plains drifter 9,467]

6 hours ago, mackem said:

It was a black lady Jen pinto?and her twin I think,bad rappers,I remember the opening verse went something like….He is dave…Dave C…..

i wish I could find the song,the lyrics were absolutely terrible.

Here you go Mack 

 

[paulus 26]

6 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

I meant in terms of legalising it as opposed to spending it .....once the poca get their claws in you best have all your shit together and your legal bods on hand.

But yes i suppose theres that as well.

 

That is very true. talking to a family member the other day, They have been on his case for the last decade, only last month they informed him that the equity in his house had gone up and reminded him he still owed them 97k. threatening another year in nick, relentless c**ts they are, 

[Welsh_red 4,309]

Went looking for the woman's song and found this gem 

[mackem 23,825]

15 minutes ago, low plains drifter said:

Here you go Mack 

 

I did a quick google.

[mackem 23,825]

12 minutes ago, paulus said:

That is very true. talking to a family member the other day, They have been on his case for the last decade, only last month they informed him that the equity in his house had gone up and reminded him he still owed them 97k. threatening another year in nick, relentless c**ts they are, 

Once the financial detective is on your case the game isn’t over,they ask you to list this that and the other,bank accounts,safety deposit boxes,assets,they don’t have the resources or info to track down everything unless you tell them,plus once you get a figure your solicitor can haggle it down.

[mC HULL 10,440]

2 hours ago, mackem said:

Once the financial detective is on your case the game isn’t over,they ask you to list this that and the other,bank accounts,safety deposit boxes,assets,they don’t have the resources or info to track down everything unless you tell them,plus once you get a figure your solicitor can haggle it down.

they make up a sum  they think you’ve earned and your paying it or your getting jailed longer and once out it doesn’t get payed in the time they say your off back again 

[gnasher16 29,664]

3 hours ago, paulus said:

That is very true. talking to a family member the other day, They have been on his case for the last decade, only last month they informed him that the equity in his house had gone up and reminded him he still owed them 97k. threatening another year in nick, relentless c**ts they are, 

Normally POCA can only go back 6 years from the date of offence and have a 2 year time limit for completion of a confiscation order....like any investigation/court trial type thing it centres around costs i think its only around 15% of whats recovered that go's to the financial investigator so they 're not going to spend too long on it,while its usually 50% go's to HM Treasury and the rest to the court but theres literally hundreds of different acts and sections of acts and what they call " Schedules " that only specialist lawyers will take on these days....when it go's into overseas funds and repatriation orders they have to go back to the CPS which could end up costing investigators fortunes in the event it doesnt go there way....same with company law,insolvency law,property law they'll normally bring in the Serious Fraud Office which then means bringing in their own areas of expertise which just becomes a normal courtroom battle of knowledge and money.

Sometimes they know they wont be able to pursue it its like  " Tainted Gifts " where i might transfer a property to you way under value if they cant prove that either one of us lives a " criminal lifestyle " its not worth them going too far with their investigation and they'll pull out and send it back to the OIC as a civil case.....years ago anyone half sensible always used to invest in bullshit companies even if they were a shambles simply because a company doesnt constitute what they call " realisable property " but nowadays it has to be a viable money making company where you the defendant are the " controlling mind " of the company......its all a massive field of complexity where you more often than not get what you pay for lawyer wise ....so ive been told anyway 

[Dutch 213]

On 02/11/2023 at 12:17, mackem said:

Yup this year there’s 2.85 million millionaires in the UK,most of that will be assets,property is the earner.

making cash from crime,I wouldn’t think it would be that difficult,what’s difficult is keeping it I would guess,fast paced lifestyles cost a bit to maintain,Courtney was an entertainer,the cheerful cheeky cockney criminal,self publicist,I still remember his rapper wife singing that dreadful song lauding his exploits on Trisha

From what I understand, property’s a good front for running a legitimate business - you can loan money through other companies, buy low, inflate the sell on, conceal your ownership through complex webs / shell companies. Unless you’ve an extensive empire, the issues with property is the inheritance tax and if you need to make a quick sale - if you had a 1M gaff and needed to sell it today you’re not going to get 1M for it and getting the cash won’t be instant

 

I always thought metals like gold and silver (bars / coins) were good choices. Silver is used everywhere and has gone up loads over the years. They also tend to rise during recession and war. Plus you can get a quick sale for market rate

 

They reckon art’s the one though

Edited November 16, 2023 by Dutch

[Waz 4,212]

On 16/11/2023 at 08:59, Dutch said:

From what I understand, property’s a good front for running a legitimate business - you can loan money through other companies, buy low, inflate the sell on, conceal your ownership through complex webs / shell companies. Unless you’ve an extensive empire, the issues with property is the inheritance tax and if you need to make a quick sale - if you had a 1M gaff and needed to sell it today you’re not going to get 1M for it and getting the cash won’t be instant

 

I always thought metals like gold and silver (bars / coins) were good choices. Silver is used everywhere and has gone up loads over the years. They also tend to rise during recession and war. Plus you can get a quick sale for market rate

 

They reckon art’s the one though

As I understand, UK issued gold coins are exempt from CGT (UK), rules here (FR) is exemption after 10 years. It reached an all time high very recently - due to all this Israel carry on no doubt. 

High end watches I reckon have got to be a good way to move money around discretely, if you had the need.

 

[Dutch 213]

2 hours ago, Waz said:

As I understand, UK issued gold coins are exempt from CGT (UK), rules here (FR) is exemption after 10 years. It reached an all time high very recently - due to all this Israel carry on no doubt. 

High end watches I reckon have got to be a good way to move money around discretely, if you had the need.

 

I may be wrong as I don’t know much about watches, but they seem a lot of hassle. They’re probably good for giving someone a kick back instead of cash but to make any decent money on them, I imagine you’d have to sit on them for a while or be so high up the chain in that industry