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TOMO 24,880 Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 which is true.....did he shoot the shooter or not... Chid says above he did not Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,377 Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 29 minutes ago, TOMO said: which is true.....did he shoot the shooter or not... Chid says above he did not Off-duty cop ran to massacre mid-haircut after teacher wife sent desperate text METRO.CO.UK Jacob Albarado was about to sit down for a haircut when he received a text from his wife. Border patrol officer rushed into Uvalde school with shotgun to save his daughter WWW.INDEPENDENT.CO.UK An US Border Patrol officer and father has recalled how he rushed into the Robb Elementary School with his... https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/05/hero-uvalde-police-227.jpg?sp_amp_linker=1*1hy9z4u*amp_id*VlFWNWQ2NjliOUNKamJCaXF6VzcwMlR3Qm1JbEFra0NidmpCWmdlS1NnT3M5WXJXTldiNklSZkZoVWRId1FBMQ.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 4,502 Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 I'd say he was part of the bortac entry team that did the job, apparently made up from various teams, had shields, got the key made entry and I'd have thought there was more than one of them firing....regardless, when you read the time line seems to last forever poor children.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,639 Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 Shooting On May 24, 2022, Salvador Rolando Ramos and his 66-year-old grandmother had an argument over a phone bill at their home in Uvalde, during which he shot her in the forehead before taking her Ford pickup truck.[43][44][45] She survived and sought help from neighbors while police officers were called in.[46] She was then airlifted to a hospital in San Antonio in critical condition.[47][48] Using his Facebook account, Ramos sent three private messages to a 15-year-old girl from Germany whom he had met online prior to the shooting:[49][50] the first to say that he was going to shoot his grandmother; a second to say that he had shot his grandmother; and a third, about 15 minutes before the shooting, to say that he was going to open fire at an elementary school.[51][52][53] A spokesperson for Meta, the parent company of Facebook, said the posts were "private one-to-one text messages" discovered after the shooting took place.[52] Ramos crashed his grandmother's truck through a barricade and into a concrete ditch outside Robb Elementary School at 11:28 a.m. CDT (UTC–5).[46][54] According to police and security camera footage, he was wearing a plate carrier—a type of tactical vest—without armor inserts,[55][56] a backpack, and all-black clothing, while carrying an AR-15 style rifle and seven 30-round magazines.[46] He brought into the school only one of the two rifles that he legally bought, and left the other in the crashed truck.[57] A witness said he first fired at two people at a nearby funeral home, both of whom escaped uninjured.[58] Police reported receiving 9-1-1 calls about a vehicle having crashed near the school.[54][59][60] After hearing of the 9-1-1 call, a school resource officer drove to the school's campus and pursued a teacher who they erroneously believed to be the gunman, driving past Ramos in the process.[61] Ramos then dropped a black ammunition bag and ventured further into the school.[62] He walked into the school at 11:33 through an exit door on the school's west side that had previously been propped open at 11:27 by a teacher who had been running to another classroom to get a phone.[63] UCISD's police chief estimated that the shooting began at 11:32; according to a Facebook post by the school, the school was placed in lockdown at 11:43 in response to gunshots heard in the vicinity.[64] After entering the building, Ramos walked down two short hallways and then entered a classroom that was internally connected to another classroom.[51] A survivor of the shooting said that, as teacher Irma Garcia attempted to lock the door to the classroom, Ramos shot the door's window, then backed Garcia into the classroom, and said "Goodnight" as he shot and killed her. Another survivor recounted that Ramos said "You're all gonna die" after entering the classroom.[65]Ramos then opened fire on the rest of the students and another teacher in the room.[66][67] According to a surviving student, Ramos played "sad music" before the shooting began.[66] All of the fatalities, including the students and two teachers, were located in the fourth grade classroom where he locked the door.[68] The majority of the shooting occurred inside the building within the first few minutes; Ramos was in the building for 40 to 60 minutes while armed police remained outside the classroom and building.[16] Multiple students played dead while the shooting took place, including one student, 11-year-old Miah Cerrillo, who used the blood of one her dead classmates to smear on herself to give credence to the subterfuge.[43][69] According to a student who hid in the adjoining classroom, Ramos came in and slightly crouched down, saying "It's time to die", before opening fire.[70] Afterwards, a responding officer called out, "Yell if you need help!" A girl in the adjoining classroom said "help". Ramos heard the girl, entered the classroom, and shot her.[71] The student said that the officer then barged into the classroom, and Ramos fired at the officer, causing more officers to return fire.[71] Officers arrived four minutes after Ramos entered the school and attempted to make entry, but they retreated after he fired at them.[72] Officers were not successful in establishing negotiations.[16] United States Marshals Service deputies drove nearly 70 miles (110 km) to the school and arrived at 12:10 p.m., where they helped officers initially confront the shooter, render first aid, and secure the perimeter.[73] At 12:17, UCISD sent out a message on Twitter that there was an active shooter at the elementary school.[74] The school district's police chief, Pedro "Pete" Arredondo, erroneously determined that the situation had "transitioned from an active shooter to a barricaded subject" according to the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS). With Ramos thought to be contained, officials believed they had bought enough time to bring in tactical units.[75] After the police cordoned the outside of the school, parents pleaded with officers to enter the building. When they did not, parents offered to enter the building themselves.[76][77]Officers held back and tackled parents who tried to enter the school, further warning that they would use tasers if the parents did not comply with directions; video clips were uploaded to social media, including one that depicted a parent being pinned to the ground.[78] Police pepper-sprayed a parent trying to get to their child, and an officer tackled a father. Police reportedly used a taser on a parent who approached a bus to get their child.[15] A mother of two students at the school was placed in handcuffs by officers for attempting to enter the school.[15][79] When released from the handcuffs, she jumped the fence and retrieved her children, exiting before police entered.[80] Some police officers were reported to have entered the school early to retrieve their own children while other parents were being blocked from entering outside.[78][81][82] According to a Texas DPS lieutenant, first responding officers had insufficient manpower and were unable to enter the classroom, and they instead evacuated children and teachers by breaking windows around the school.[51][62]Ramos stayed in the classroom for around one hour, hiding behind a steel door that officers were unable to open until they obtained a master key from the janitor.[83][84] A United States Border Patrol Tactical Unit (BORTAC) agent rushed to the scene after receiving a text message from his wife, who was a teacher there. Prior to this, the officer had been off-duty before receiving the news. The officer immediately set out with a shotgun his barber had lent him and arrived on scene approximately an hour after the first responders arrived.[85] Additional BORTAC agents arrived, but they did not have a battering ram or other breaching tools, so a U.S. Marshal on scene provided agents with a ballistic shield. After the door was unlocked, a BORTAC agent entered the room holding the shield, followed by two other BORTAC agents, a Border Patrol Search, Trauma, and Rescueagent (BORSTAR), and at least one sheriff's deputy. Ramos reportedly opened fire at the group from a closet in the room before officials returned fire and killed him.[86] As UCISD officers exchanged fire with Ramos, BORTAC agents joined them in response to a request for assistance; one sustained an injury.[87]According to Governor Greg Abbott, the injured Border Patrol agent fatally shot Ramos.[88] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,385 Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 Quote Officers arrived four minutes after Ramos entered the school and attempted to make entry, but they retreated after he fired at them.[72] Officers were not successful in establishing negotiations.[16] 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 9,467 Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 On 29/05/2022 at 19:23, Gene said: That's it for me, you can hide behind the excuse of unclear orders all you like but if you sat there twiddling your thumbs whilst you knew kids were getting blown away then that is unforgivable IMO, fcuk training or protocol, how about use your heart and your instinct. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 23,825 Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 Just seen it described as a law enforcement failure from top to bottom. Uvalde mass shooting: Fresh developments over holiday weekend raise new questions about the failure of the law enforcement response - CNNPolitics AMP-CNN-COM.CDN.AMPPROJECT.ORG One week on, Uvalde's agony is only deepening. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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mackem 23,825 Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 Florida boy, 10, charged after threatening to carry out mass shooting, police say NEWS.SKY.COM A police statement described the youngster's behaviour as "sickening" and his arrest... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,362 Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 On 30/05/2022 at 20:40, Chid said: Trudeau has just introduced legislation on a freeze of handguns in Canada,can't by,sell import etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 23,825 Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 It's like a wild-west shootout Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 23,825 Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 Shooting in a hospital a short while ago. 3 killed in shooting inside Tulsa hospital; gunman also dead, police say WWW-NBCNEWS-COM.CDN.AMPPROJECT.ORG Police say a man armed with a rifle at St. Francis Hospital was also dead after Wednesday's... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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