DIDO.1 20,904 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, sandymere said: Lung cancer UK price tag eclipses the cost of any other cancer NEWS.CANCERRESEARCHUK.ORG The cost of lung cancer to the UK economy is Ј2.4 billion each year, far higher than the cost of any other cancer. This highlights the urgent need to continue to reduce... DEFINE_ME WWW.THELANCET.COM 2.4 + 1.9 billion, smoking is an expensive business. So is alcohol related illness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepChaser 8,082 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, sandymere said: Lung cancer UK price tag eclipses the cost of any other cancer NEWS.CANCERRESEARCHUK.ORG The cost of lung cancer to the UK economy is Ј2.4 billion each year, far higher than the cost of any other cancer. This highlights the urgent need to continue to reduce... DEFINE_ME WWW.THELANCET.COM 2.4 + 1.9 billion, smoking is an expensive business. I think alcohol still beats that though. And obesity is predicted to be costing the NHS around 10 billion a year by 2050 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hambone 948 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, Mother_Mary said: You drunk again? It was that case he drunk alone in a field. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,808 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, hambone said: It was that case he drunk alone in a field. Still better company than thee. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Just now, SheepChaser said: The single greatest environmental and societal threat to us, is our exploding population. Nothing can cope with the rate it is growing. And yet we are constantly trying to make everyone live as long as possible and reproduce endlessly. Are we? in countries like the UK, having good health tends to reduce number of children. Children per woman OURWORLDINDATA.ORG Measured as the total fertility rate, which is the number of children that would be born to the average woman if she were to live to the end of her child-bearing years... 50 years ago the average woman had five children; since then the number has halved OURWORLDINDATA.ORG In the past the average woman had five children. In the past fifty years, this number has halved as a result of women empowerment, declining child mortality and... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,848 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, SheepChaser said: Yet I’d agree that Francie is hitting it a bit hard! But smoking that vape all day every day .... I’m not sure it’s better than someone else who has the odd spliff from time to time. Our of interest what don’t you quit vaping? perhaps its not but its deffo better than 40/50 rollies a day. a combination of when i tried i struggled with the withdrawls and was f***ing horrible and i actually enjoy it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepChaser 8,082 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, sandymere said: Are we? in countries like the UK, having good health tends to reduce number of children. Children per woman OURWORLDINDATA.ORG Measured as the total fertility rate, which is the number of children that would be born to the average woman if she were to live to the end of her child-bearing years... 50 years ago the average woman had five children; since then the number has halved OURWORLDINDATA.ORG In the past the average woman had five children. In the past fifty years, this number has halved as a result of women empowerment, declining child mortality and... Globally yes we are. One of the ironies to this story is the fact that Newzealand is f***ing vast and they are worries about some shepherd up a mountain on a huge remote station ....... f**k me NZ has plenty more to worry about I would think ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepChaser 8,082 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, South hams hunter said: perhaps its not but its deffo better than 40/50 rollies a day. a combination of when i tried i struggled with the withdrawls and was f***ing horrible and i actually enjoy it Could well be, but plenty don’t smoke to that level. So you take the risk of the potential of health damage from vaping because you like it and struggle to give jt ip, that’s fair. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,848 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, SheepChaser said: Could well be, but plenty don’t smoke to that level. So you take the risk of the potential of health damage from vaping because you like it and struggle to give jt ip, that’s fair. i know its not extensive proof but we got my gran to move from fags to a vape and her copd hasnt progressed in the last 4/5 years that she has been on one so im convinced its better than tobacco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 23,846 Posted December 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, SheepChaser said: The single greatest environmental and societal threat to us, is our exploding population. Nothing can cope with the rate it is growing. And yet we are constantly trying to make everyone live as long as possible and reproduce endlessly. In general western societies do have an ageing society, but the less civilised countries have the knocking kids out like rabbits repro rates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepChaser 8,082 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, South hams hunter said: i know its not extensive proof but we got my gran to move from fags to a vape and her copd hasnt progressed in the last 4/5 years that she has been on one so im convinced its better than tobacco I don’t doubt it is mate: My objections all surround the idea or the nanny state. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepChaser 8,082 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Just now, mackem said: In general western societies do have an ageing society, but the less civilised countries have the knocking kids out like rabbits repro rates. Agreed. Both of which are causing massive issues. I was being a little tongue in cheek re the letting folk die thing, but there is a little bit of truth there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, SheepChaser said: I think alcohol still beats that though. And obesity is predicted to be costing the NHS around 10 billion a year by 2050 indeed we need to look for long term strategies to meet these issues but that doesn't take from the fact that tobacco is the low hanging fruit and as a percentage of users in comparison to say alcohol causes much more harm, 2 out of three long term users will die of tobacco related disease which is a lot higher than drinking. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,848 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, SheepChaser said: I don’t doubt it is mate: My objections all surround the idea or the nanny state. i get that but it also makes sense imo. its a completely unnecessary cost and lets be honest youll mainly hear smokers say i wish i had never started so stopping it at source has to be easier than the aftermath Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 23,846 Posted December 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, SheepChaser said: Agreed. Both of which are causing massive issues. I was being a little tongue in cheek re the letting folk die thing, but there is a little bit of truth there. Back to Asia, I think from memory Singapore, Hong Kong and Korea or Taiwan had 1.1 kids average or thereabouts, parts of Africa had 6 or 7 the only free entertainment in the gutter is sex and violence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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