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10 hours ago, Blackmag said:

Why as you have stated as a non believer would you chase a answer fd it's clear you have made your mind up 

Because without questions that lie goes on and on mate .

If more people questioned others ,made them accountable I think we would have a better society instead of the standards we are seeing now .

Im being honest here mate ,the level of hostility from so called believers is astonishing .

Why  can’t they just say the answer without abuse or worst still no reply .

Its age old though isn’t it .Some want to talk without being accountable ,weak men  listen  and say nothing .

 

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I found faith a few yrs ago now,my Mrs and kids go to church couple of times a week, myself about twice a month..let folks believe what they want in my book... just don't try and push it on others?

There's millions or Christians left around the world , just because they don't shout about it or ain't manic in their beliefs don't mean there not out there ..

You really need to give it a go FD it might chill you out a bit ?

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6 hours ago, king said:

 I'm not into the jehovah's witnesses type stuff at all..

But I do pitty them if they ever knock FD front door.. there would be a 4hr heated debate..then the jehovah's would need a months supply of valium....

Easily nipped in the bud mate ,sorry chaps I’m an atheist .Not had one yet that feels the need to loiter .

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1 hour ago, foxdropper said:

Because without questions that lie goes on and on mate .

If more people questioned others ,made them accountable I think we would have a better society instead of the standards we are seeing now .

Im being honest here mate ,the level of hostility from so called believers is astonishing .

Why  can’t they just say the answer without abuse or worst still no reply .

Its age old though isn’t it .Some want to talk without being accountable ,weak men  listen  and say nothing .

 

Are you held accountable to your beleifs? 

What makes you think think people have to be accountable to there faith? 

That's between them an whoever,now if someone preaches forth,they need to have an answer for What there preaching,but unless that happens,you can't expect someone to answer to the all knownig FD.

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Ask away Francie lad .Of course I’m accountable for anything I write .I get that nobody here is preaching ,I get that it’s personal .I was just hoping for an insight from some else’s perspective other than my own .No bother mate ,think I’m done with it .

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4 hours ago, foxdropper said:

Because without questions that lie goes on and on mate .

If more people questioned others ,made them accountable I think we would have a better society instead of the standards we are seeing now .

Im being honest here mate ,the level of hostility from so called believers is astonishing .

Why  can’t they just say the answer without abuse or worst still no reply .

Its age old though isn’t it .Some want to talk without being accountable ,weak men  listen  and say nothing

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Just my own very humble opinion ,but for many people belief in God is complicated ,it's not a yes \no question ,it would take longer than the reply box on a tinterweb forum to clarify how you feel ,for me personally it's not private or secret how I feel ,it's just not easy to describe in a few dozen words ,

For what it's worth I have a theory that most atheists are against organised religions ( and understandably so )than against the idea of people having a spiritual side .

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Thanks for the reply sir .

IME atheists dont feel the need to be against anything mate .It’s just not for them .

I can’t remember ever hearing an atheist preach to masses or go to war off the back of some disagreement .

Religious persons fear them for some reason ,why is beyond me but there tis .

We are usually very well balanced people as am I .

I never realised there was so many different beliefs if I’m honest ,from die hards to passive religious .Never gave it much thought .

Ive been guilty of lumping them all under one heading of Christian which some resent and others revel in .

Even though I’m an atheist it would be foolish for me not to want to engage with others would it not .

Im done though as it’s upsetting a few and not my intention .

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Atheists "preaching " is more common than you imagine ,Richard Dawkins makes a very compelling argument for being actively anti religious as did Christopher Hitchens ,and history tells us there have been many atheists who have gone to war "off the back of some disagreement " but these are all off shoots of the original question .

 

If you don't mind my saying ,I think it's maybe your manner (which with all the respect can seem a bit supercillious and superior ) that gets people's back up rather than the content of your posts .

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Taken on board mate but unfortunately that’s me .

When this topic surfaces again and it will ,I’ll get my secretary to write out what I’m saying in her own words lol. She’s the very epitome of diplomacy .

Thanks for taking time to reply in a calm manner mate and apologies to anyone I’ve upset .

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7 hours ago, foxdropper said:

Because without questions that lie goes on and on mate .

If more people questioned others ,made them accountable I think we would have a better society instead of the standards we are seeing now .

Im being honest here mate ,the level of hostility from so called believers is astonishing .

Why  can’t they just say the answer without abuse or worst still no reply .

Its age old though isn’t it .Some want to talk without being accountable ,weak men  listen  and say nothing .

 

I believe overweight obese people to be weak, probably the weakest of all. 

Just put the buns down, it's that simple but they can't even manage that. 

The weakest of the weak. ??

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3 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

I believe overweight obese people to be weak, probably the weakest of all. 

Just put the buns down, it's that simple but they can't even manage that. 

The weakest of the weak. ??

Tyson fury, butter bean etc etc might have a different opinion of that, never mind the culture of sumo

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3 hours ago, Astanley said:

Just my own very humble opinion ,but for many people belief in God is complicated ,it's not a yes \no question ,it would take longer than the reply box on a tinterweb forum to clarify how you feel ,for me personally it's not private or secret how I feel ,it's just not easy to describe in a few dozen words ,

For what it's worth I have a theory that most atheists are against organised religions ( and understandably so )than against the idea of people having a spiritual side .

Organised religion is bullshit!

The Koran was written from word of mouth.

The bible (old testament) was written from word of mouth stories. 

The bible (last testement) is a collection of what men believed should constitute the message to control the masses (decided at the council of Nicea)

The Vedas, the Tora (old testament) etc ad infinitum.

I'll stick with my own spirituality, based on science. Energy can never be destroyed only transformed. Nature is my God and buddha my guide but only in the sense that karma is a bitch ?

When I die, I will return my energy to the universe. That doesn't mean I'll know about it, just that whatever energy I posses, will go back to everything else and be recycled ;)

Now can we fuuck this off and go back to ET? ?‍♂️

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