The plummer terrier

[fireman 9,607]

8 hours ago, poxon said:

Scott used to live near me used to occasionally bump in to him when we were out mooching about me my cousin an our Lurchers used to have a couple of plummers an the odd beddy with him pleasant enough chap

I lost touch with Scott a few years back and would love to tell him all about Molly as he bred a bloody good un then and you are right mate he was a very pleasant chap indeed and i hope he is doing well in life.....

[TonyT 859]

1 minute ago, sid g said:

it needs someone to use the same breeds used to create the breed  to start a whole new gene pool i dont know as anyone would/could be arsed with it , dbp had the ego and eccentricity to do it , 

Would a direct outcross not invigorate the pool.

What I mean is put in qualities you want directly,

a staff , beagle , Russell , glen , Sealyham 

is a complex mix at best.

ATB ... T  

[TonyT 859]

4 minutes ago, sid g said:

it would be a short cut but long term and to create a large enough gene pool i think you`d need to recreate the original breed ... be lads on here more into genetics than me but i think i`m on the right tracks 

So the breed would have to start again.

then put the resulting dogs over the existing bitches.

I know nothing about genetics Sid .

ATB... T

[TonyT 859]

Just now, sid g said:

and existing  dogs over new bitches soon  increase the gene pool .. it would be a new variation of the existing breed 

Aye , Sid you’re right mate.

no easy answer I expect.

ATB .... Tony 

[Daniel cain 30,539]

That Brian dog of fox packs be ideal and something like Bosuns busher Imo... Terrier/beagle/bull mix

[W. Katchum 35,076]

[Loton Moocher 1,248]

2 hours ago, poxon said:

Bet there thoughts wouldn’t be far off the beddy lads once you outcross the purest noses get turned up but there still sit there moaning the gene pool to small 

Nowt wrong with beddys noses it’s there best asset they already got good lakey and fell in the hybreds putting plummers in them which are really only mongralised Russell’s would be big backward step 

[poxon 4,924]

3 minutes ago, Loton Moocher said:

Nowt wrong with beddys noses it’s there best asset they already got good lakey and fell in the hybreds putting plummers in them which are really only mongralised Russell’s would be big backward step 

Here he is!! No one as said about putting plummers in to beddys don’t know we’re you got that from or about beddys noses my answer to the original question is using beddys with tongue in cheek as a guideline the purest would say there not plummers if there outcrossed same as the purest kc beddy owners snub out cross beddys they won’t want to put back in to the lines because they want to keep kc but will sit there moaning the gene pool is small that’s what I’m getting at

[Loton Moocher 1,248]

29 minutes ago, poxon said:

Here he is!! No one as said about putting plummers in to beddys don’t know we’re you got that from or about beddys noses my answer to the original question is using beddys with tongue in cheek as a guideline the purest would say there not plummers if there outcrossed same as the purest kc beddy owners snub out cross beddys they won’t want to put back in to the lines because they want to keep kc but will sit there moaning the gene pool is small that’s what I’m getting at

[Black neck 11,785]

Should definitely put beddy into plumbers ,can't make either of them any worse 

[Loton Moocher 1,248]

1 hour ago, Black neck said:

Should definitely put beddy into plumbers ,can't make either of them any worse 

You could with bull blood

[W. Katchum 35,076]

1 hour ago, Loton Moocher said:

You could with bull blood

Give over bull blood would give your beddy a pair of balls

[mushray 246]

1 hour ago, Loton Moocher said:

You could with bull blood

That’s the one a good working pbt crossed back in. Get a bit off fire back in there guts. 

[tatsblisters 4,472]

On 09/02/2021 at 12:13, baker boy said:

Same type found in every street in every mining village in South Wales

Often wondered what other breeds went into them obviously not bred for their looks and more for their working ability i have seen no terriers around me that resembles that terrier that came by way of Plummer that i saw 46 years ago and one i have seen bred of them that made a name in east London as a digging dog.

[baker boy 8,886]

3 minutes ago, mushray said:

That’s the one a good working pbt crossed back in. Get a bit off fire back in there guts. 

Perhaps they should use something bred for underground work then there wouldnt be so many afraid of the dark, fire in their guts no good to them if they wont work below ground, last thing they need is more PBT the way they go on