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15 hours ago, jake824 said:

Just waiting for an old half cross bull greyhound to come in season. I ve always run quite heavy dogs but am really considering putting a greyhound over her . Jake s right in what he s saying , on big fields these heavy dogs struggle on the turns. Top end is no problem but they get turned inside out. No good having a massive head if they can t catch what’s in front of them 

Have you got a greyhound lined up for her jake?

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4 hours ago, Marvel said:

Have you got a greyhound lined up for her jake?

i had this x  1/4 pit 3/4 grey  few years back in the 80s , was bred  down Brum  from joe smith stuff, real good x, fast not bad wind for a 1/4 bred , and enough grit to  do foxes / deer, and not bad on rabbits. they are bit full on though, you got your heart in your mouth every time you slipped him, do or die type mine was, it was his down fall in the end , he run into a fence post after a fox, done his shoulder in and chest,  he never ran again proper , had to put him down  in the end, shame liked the dog. but suppose it could have happened to any type x    1x or what ever lurcher you ran that night .:sad:

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6 hours ago, Marvel said:

Have you got a greyhound lined up for her jake?

Have got chance to use a nice steady one that’s had a bit of work but is about 6 now and never lined a bitch . What bird says is what my reservations are for using him. Half crosses are like land rovers and take the knocks especially when they chase something flat out into a wood for example. Never run a 3/4 bred so not sure what to expect 

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2 hours ago, jake824 said:

Have got chance to use a nice steady one that’s had a bit of work but is about 6 now and never lined a bitch . What bird says is what my reservations are for using him. Half crosses are like land rovers and take the knocks especially when they chase something flat out into a wood for example. Never run a 3/4 bred so not sure what to expect 

why not  go down the route 2- 3rd gen 1x , seen some good racy 1xs over the years , still fast enough to catch stuff  no prob. must be some lads with nice 1x dog ,  thats not over big ,?  its funny really regards size of dogs my bullxs were 70- 77 lb  26in    quite fast, but my 1x gsd x grey  Buck 28 in 90 lb  faster top end, and deff more agile  than  what the bullxs were, but in saying that a lad had 2nd gen 1x pit x grey, that was only 25in  about 65 lb  , and caught load of stuff, so they few out there,  sombody could help you out .:thumbs:

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On 06/02/2020 at 21:51, jake824 said:

The greyhound in mind works mate . Thing is with a bitsa lurcher or racey bull cross u can throw all sorts. Been there done that 

Never weight off a bits a lurcher mate I've had a few gooduns

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6 hours ago, Penda said:

Never weight off a bits a lurcher mate I've had a few gooduns

I’m not knocking em or writing em off just been down that route . Done half x to half x as well bird , I ve kept and worked lurchers for a long time just always fancied breeding some genuine 3/4 breds 

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13 minutes ago, jake824 said:

I’m not knocking em or writing em off just been down that route . Done half x to half x as well bird , I ve kept and worked lurchers for a long time just always fancied breeding some genuine 3/4 breds 

34 breds the lad either right good or fairly crap imo some on um can be big stiff idiots 

Other people seem to have goodens tho so feck knows 🤣

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16 minutes ago, jake824 said:

I’m not knocking em or writing em off just been down that route . Done half x to half x as well bird , I ve kept and worked lurchers for a long time just always fancied breeding some genuine 3/4 breds 

Best x in my eyes if they throw right there's not as many genuine half xs about now obviously for certain reasons years ago they were every where but now there's very few 

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1 hour ago, Black neck said:

34 breds the lad either right good or fairly crap imo some on um can be big stiff idiots 

Other people seem to have goodens tho so feck knows 🤣

I've had 3/4 Deerhound/Greyhounds  3/4 Bedlington/Greyhounds  3/4 Bull/Greyhounds and not one of them grafted better than the 1/2 x stuff they where bred from. I've also owned/seen some decent 5/8x.There are good 3/4 cross kicking about but I've never had any luck with them. In a Foxing dog imho you seem to sacrifice a lot for the little bit extra speed you get with a 3/4 bred as well as being  more injury prone .

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1 minute ago, MickC said:

I've had 3/4 Deerhound/Greyhounds  3/4 Bedlington/Greyhounds  3/4 Bull/Greyhounds and not one of them grafted better than the 1/2 x stuff they where bred from. I've also owned/seen some decent 5/8x.There are good 3/4 cross kicking about but I've never had any luck with them. In a Foxing dog imho you seem to sacrifice a lot for the little bit extra speed you get with a 3/4 bred  .

Right I'm with ya 

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8 minutes ago, MickC said:

I've had 3/4 Deerhound/Greyhounds  3/4 Bedlington/Greyhounds  3/4 Bull/Greyhounds and not one of them grafted better than the 1/2 x stuff they where bred from. I've also owned/seen some decent 5/8x.There are good 3/4 cross kicking about but I've never had any luck with them. In a Foxing dog imho you seem to sacrifice a lot for the little bit extra speed you get with a 3/4 bred as well as being  more injury prone .

Good honest reply mate. That’s what I’m cautious of. If I could find a proper grafting. 3/4 bred I d breed the 5/8 litter but to be honest ringing lads all over there’s not one been mentioned doing what I would expect it to do. 

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I have a strong built 3/4 grey 1/4 bull that is almost 3. Although I would rather wait a few more years down the line to put him to a bitch, im not sure if he will last that long, only because he is full on do or die and have had a couple of close calls recently with him. Just throwing it out there if that's of any interest as have all the breeding in my records going way back. 

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