Brexit

[tilimangro 1,013]

Just now, Sarge1974 said:

You mean they won't allow us to have our cake and to eat it too? 

We could easily tell them that we are leaving with no deal but we won't, that tells you right there who wants the other more.

I don’t dispute that

indo dispute that they have anything but themselves in mind

what they want is empirically not what’s best for the country

[Greyman 25,264]

58 minutes ago, JohnGalway said:

The EU is like a club, members have benefits, third countries are outside of all of that and don't share the same benefits as full members. In essence this is what the UK has voted to become. No different than any other third country - before they agreed trade deal (which is entirely different from the Withdrawal Agreement the UK & EU are negotiating now).

I've seen no comment from anyone that matters in power that the UK cannot leave the EU. Quite the contrary, that they see it as regrettable but they accept the decision. They have even said the UK can apply for membership again in the future.

It's like a lad who's a member of a shooting range, says f**k this I don't like the clubs policies I'm out. But turns up with his gear the next Saturday expecting to be able use the facilities like people who are members.

It's entirely unrealistic, it is my view the public in Britain have been sold a pile of lies and unfortunately it is only a period outside the EU that will allow this to be realised.

The biggest lie we have been sold is that we are better off in the eu and we are unable to function without them, historically all empire building comes crashing down eventually and will do in the future, the Roman Empire was an early attempt at the eu, Adolf hitters invasion of Europe was another failed attempt at creating a European superstate, and now the French and Germans have clubbed together to try and create it again only this time by using stealth,lies a scaremongering, plus the help of traitors like Blair, forget brexit and look at the rest of the eu, victor alban Hungarian leader has been told his country will be starved of money until he allows migration into his country set by the eu, Italy is about to become the next Greece because they have just told the E u they want to set there own budget not the one the eu want, out of interest apart from France and mainly Germany can you name any other eu country,s doing well, and also explain why every low skilled low wage job in Britain is swamped by eu citizens because  they can't get work in there home nations ?? And it's not like a lad in a shooting club, it's about growing a set of plums standing tall and remembering why so many young men gave there lives to allow us to make our own decisions in our own country ffs

[joe ox 2,547]

Feral blacks  

 

[dogmandont 9,348]

27 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said:

John Galway the eu is ruining the roi as well and wasn’t long ago it was on its knees, your smugness is wearing thin, your country is also becoming over run with Middle East, Eastern Europe and feral  blacks, but your too busy laughing at Britain to even notice that the beautiful Republic of Ireland is turning into a shitehole all due to the 4th reich and its uncontrolled immigration and take over of Europe. 

Did you go south much before they joined the eu len? Seems you didn’t.  And you never answered my question the other day, what would be so horrible about Northern Ireland getting special status as we already have it???? 

[Blackbriar 8,568]

20 Tory MPs have publicly issued statements of no confidence. The Whips office has cancelled all engagements, and recalled all the Tory whips to London, and they say a leadership challenge is now "likely"............

...........looks like the clock is ticking for the Maybot ?

 

 

[Blackbriar 8,568]

9 minutes ago, maxhardcore said:

And so we could if we had Politicians who Worked for their Country and Not their Own pockets

I think that's been Mrs May's biggest mistake. She's spent all her time negotiating with her own party !

It's being rumoured that the DUP are considering withdrawing their support from the government. 

If that happens, surely Mrs May will become a former PM ?

[Lenmcharristar 9,180]

30 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

Did you go south much before they joined the eu len? Seems you didn’t.  And you never answered my question the other day, what would be so horrible about Northern Ireland getting special status as we already have it???? 

Yes I went down plenty of times to know it was much better when under its own authority never mind how expensive it became when it adopted the yo-yo, for the freedom fighters of Ireland how about fighting for freedom from the new nazi regime as Ireland will never be free under they’re rule as in 20 to 30 yrs it will be exactly like londonistan and will no longer be recognisable to the native whites and full of no go areas thanks to spineless leaders all under the rule of the Germans in the 4th reich

[bob.243 7,539]

[Blackbriar 8,568]

I reckon the EU want this over and done with as quickly as possible, while discouraging any further dissent, so they won't negotiate any further and they certainly won't give any more ground than they already have.

There's huge, and growing, problems with the Italian economy. Continuing problems in the Greek economy. The politics of Poland and Hungary are moving ever to the right -Viktor Orban was actually sanctioned, for defying their edicts !! There's growing anti-EU sentiment in Germany, Austria, Holland, Poland and Hungary while, across the pond, Trump fires broadsides at every available opportunity.

They've got other pressing problems breathing down their neck !

[JohnGalway 1,043]

2 hours ago, baker boy said:

Bullshit

f**k it, I'm convinced, I take it all back.

[Blackbriar 8,568]

Oh wait !

She's got the backing of Michael Gove........with his proven track record of supporting his colleagues !

She's DEFINITELY done for.........like a football club chairman saying the manager has their full backing !

[JohnGalway 1,043]

2 hours ago, maxhardcore said:

John' Europe ain't the be all and end all of trade and something to be a member of.

We have the rest of the World to trade with '

Also Europe don't want to loose our trade' they can't afford to loose our trade' 

We also pay more in than we ever receive as a Nation.

Yes politicians and their family's company's and fortunes might loose a little money .

Thats why they don't want to leave .

Bur the maths tell you if we craic on instead of scaremongering and put people in charge who can run

Great Britain PLC then the working class taxpayer will be better off because as Iv stated the British Taxpayer contributes far more per annum per person than we actually get back .

I believe Britain is about £500m a week worse off now, than before the referendum. Economies are complex animals.

Neither the German auto makers nor the French champagne producers have cracked. Europe will be just fine.

As for WTO and trade with the rest of the world, the UK has no established tariff schedules in the WTO - which must be agreed unanimously by all WTO members so the UK has a large and complex problem right there with official objections in already from several nations.

[JohnGalway 1,043]

2 hours ago, tilimangro said:

The eu have consistently made it hard 

they’ve stifled negotiations 

been disingenuous about outcomes and tried to make us an example of what happens when members try to leave

what a great bunch of guys

Examples please.

[JohnGalway 1,043]

2 hours ago, Lenmcharristar said:

John Galway the eu is ruining the roi as well and wasn’t long ago it was on its knees, your smugness is wearing thin, your country is also becoming over run with Middle East, Eastern Europe and feral  blacks, but your too busy laughing at Britain to even notice that the beautiful Republic of Ireland is turning into a shitehole all due to the 4th reich and its uncontrolled immigration and take over of Europe. 

None of that is accurate Len.

[JohnGalway 1,043]

2 hours ago, Greyman said:

The biggest lie we have been sold is that we are better off in the eu and we are unable to function without them, historically all empire building comes crashing down eventually and will do in the future, the Roman Empire was an early attempt at the eu, Adolf hitters invasion of Europe was another failed attempt at creating a European superstate, and now the French and Germans have clubbed together to try and create it again only this time by using stealth,lies a scaremongering, plus the help of traitors like Blair, forget brexit and look at the rest of the eu, victor alban Hungarian leader has been told his country will be starved of money until he allows migration into his country set by the eu, Italy is about to become the next Greece because they have just told the E u they want to set there own budget not the one the eu want, out of interest apart from France and mainly Germany can you name any other eu country,s doing well, and also explain why every low skilled low wage job in Britain is swamped by eu citizens because  they can't get work in there home nations ?? And it's not like a lad in a shooting club, it's about growing a set of plums standing tall and remembering why so many young men gave there lives to allow us to make our own decisions in our own country ffs

The EU is the most successful peace organisation there is, funny take you have leaving it then comparing it with war dead. It was formed to prevent Germany and France going to war.

No one stopping you making your own decisions, no one stopped the referendum, no one is stopping the UK leaving at the end of March. Your thinking is bizarre.