mC HULL 15,579 Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Bolero said: For most people getting a good dog now and then is plenty good to them. But there are people who want consistency in the dogs there working. It is very possible to get more than one good dog in a litter amd also be able to do so litter after litter. I understand that lots of people think talking a good worker to another good worker is the only way but breeding that way will end in disappointment more times than not. Is it really so hard to believe that choosing a good worker who from multiple generations of good worker and breeding that dog to a female who is also a good worker form generations of good workers who are related( it doesn’t have to be a sibling or parent) first cousins, aunt, uncle, half sibling all have been done and proven to give good results. The more closely related ones I wrote befor that have also worked. Racing greyhounds, thoroughbred horses, bulldogs, the different hunting dog breeds are have all been bred very successful this way. One of the top breeders of racing greyhounds in Australia who has produced multiple top dogs year after year. So it’s not a fluke or simply luck. Breedings this way isn’t simply an opinion it’s backed by actual scientific research which yes doesn’t really mean a whole lot usually but people who make a living by producing good working have proven the the science in the real world. I understand how some feel when it comes to working dog and moneys but when being able feed your family, put clothes on there back and a roof over ther head is dependent on being able to consistently produce a good percentage of quality working dogs. A person I’m that position is clearly go to use the breeding method that is going to allow them to do that and choosing the best performers and the line breeding, inbreeding, and then when need outcross has shown to be the best way to do that Inbreeding close no good I don’t think in a bulldog you want aggression loads have shite coat skin cow hocked etc you don’t want an aggressive lurcher cow hocked with shite skin Quote Link to post
joe ox 2,671 Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Back breeding is just another form of inbreeding, the fact is the more you inbreed the need to cull becomes greater with every breeding. 5 Quote Link to post
poxon 5,913 Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 How’s the original poster got on with this exercise 1 Quote Link to post
joe ox 2,671 Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, poxon said: How’s the original poster got on with this exercise I've just noticed the original post was from 2017 , in my own defence I haven't been out of bed long 1 Quote Link to post
fred90 3,358 Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 this chap sounds like Hitler with his superior race 2 Quote Link to post
joe ox 2,671 Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 One mans superior could be another mans cull. 3 Quote Link to post
poxon 5,913 Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, fred90 said: this chap sounds like Hitler with his superior race And I bet the dogs are no different to what you or I or any one on here have in our possession Quote Link to post
Black neck 17,175 Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, poxon said: And I bet the dogs are no different to what you or I or any one on here have in our possession Maybe even worserer 1 Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 48,346 Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 He's not known to keep shit like.... Just saying 1 Quote Link to post
C.green 3,254 Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 15 hours ago, Black neck said: Maybe even worserer Ive found Most of the time people that want to keep breeding tight as they can have normally found what there looking for and dont want to water it down with angthing else Quote Link to post
mC HULL 15,579 Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, C.green said: Ive found Most of the time people that want to keep breeding tight as they can have normally found what there looking for and dont want to water it down with angthing else Terriers? Lampers or coursing dogs ? Quote Link to post
Black neck 17,175 Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, C.green said: Ive found Most of the time people that want to keep breeding tight as they can have normally found what there looking for and dont want to water it down with angthing else Very true I mean look at the burrel line bred for 800 year he must be delighted wi what they have 1 Quote Link to post
C.green 3,254 Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Black neck said: Very true I mean look at the burrel line bred for 800 year he must be delighted wi what they have 100% he got that cream of the crop there. The dash of husky done made them what they are imo 1 Quote Link to post
C.green 3,254 Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Terriers? Lampers or coursing dogs ? Maybe not coursers no Quote Link to post
Black neck 17,175 Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, C.green said: 100% he got that cream of the crop there. The dash of husky done made them what they are imo I belive the infusion of pigeon blood is what done it Quote Link to post
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