Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 If your hunting medium sized patches of cover or along hedgerows ,then I don't suppose there is much difference using a silent dog ,hunting woodland or big tracts of gorse ,heather ,bramble etc if my dog didn't open up when hot on something I wouldn't know where the f**k she was and neither would the runners , she will often open up in a completely different direction from where I expected her to be . Everyone e has their own way of going about things and "viva LA difference " I say atb thats fair point Stan , situations like that mate a dog that give voice would deff be benefit deff. my next dog will be a small type lurcher , i would like 2nd gen 1x pit x whippet , if i can get one, ive had both breeds before and i like them, if i did get one and it picked up some of the whippet genes which it could . the none ped whippet ive seen at the track years ago they can sing a bit lol , so as busher i reckon they be vocal . i like the crack with any type dog day or night , and mooching/bushing is great deff Ray ,I had a first x whippet bull a few years ago ,and had unbelievable sport with it ,it got passed to me because it opened up ,but it was so much more than just a running dog ,an exciting little dog to own . ive heard good things about them as well Stan, i want it more for in the day really , just mooching and the odd few nights in the lamp, Buck my main lamping dog really when i take him, but he great in the day as well just like old Bryn is, i think little line bred 1x pit x whippet would fit in well with them , be great mooching team , the other day Buck knocked rabbit out , yeh feckin Buck lol, god knows how he gets in some of the cover , it ran my side old Bryn just missed it, he just lost bit of pace , mind you he 10 in sep , bloody hell dont time fly . lol You won't go wrong with something like what bluezak runs when you're big dogs are in the ground and you decide to take it easy. Not his Bruce dog but his smaller beddy/whip/grey types. I can imagine they would turn their paw to anything and would be easy going types when not in the field. But then saying that most small lurcher x lurchers fit the bill. I like the bull whippets myself just the ones I've seen have had whippet skin and coat with bull attitude and that's not a good mix. Although they're probably not all the same you would have to see a few. Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,563 Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 My Bushing dog fecking thing get anywhere 2 Quote Link to post
Boristheblade 1,367 Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 There's a fully working pack (3) of beagle spaniels on the bushing dog Facebook group that come with tracking collars aswel apparently. I haven't got Facebook but a mate has just sent me the advert look like they know the score aswel ? Quote Link to post
toolebox 1,577 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 I hunt rabbits for a living ,mostly over a big pack of bushing dogs ,in New Zealand ,I like them to yap ,running slience is no good to me nor the others of the pack ,I dont know a rabbit has "lifted" .The noise helps move the rabbit around ,if it goes to ground I beleve it was always going to go there but at least with some noise I know where its gone .Ive found great dogs come in all shapes & sizes but If you can get a tidy spaniel x beagle or spaniel x JR terrier thats my choice of busher ,but its always a team effort that sees the game bag full . 2 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 I hunt rabbits for a living ,mostly over a big pack of bushing dogs ,in New Zealand ,I like them to yap ,running slience is no good to me nor the others of the pack ,I dont know a rabbit has "lifted" .The noise helps move the rabbit around ,if it goes to ground I beleve it was always going to go there but at least with some noise I know where its gone .Ive found great dogs come in all shapes & sizes but If you can get a tidy spaniel x beagle or spaniel x JR terrier thats my choice of busher ,but its always a team effort that sees the game bag full . Good post that fella! Quote Link to post
krawnden 1,036 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 I hunt rabbits for a living ,mostly over a big pack of bushing dogs ,in New Zealand ,I like them to yap ,running slience is no good to me nor the others of the pack ,I dont know a rabbit has "lifted" .The noise helps move the rabbit around ,if it goes to ground I beleve it was always going to go there but at least with some noise I know where its gone .Ive found great dogs come in all shapes & sizes but If you can get a tidy spaniel x beagle or spaniel x JR terrier thats my choice of busher ,but its always a team effort that sees the game bag full . Whereabouts in NZ fella? Quote Link to post
toolebox 1,577 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) I hunt rabbits for a living ,mostly over a big pack of bushing dogs ,in New Zealand ,I like them to yap ,running slience is no good to me nor the others of the pack ,I dont know a rabbit has "lifted" .The noise helps move the rabbit around ,if it goes to ground I beleve it was always going to go there but at least with some noise I know where its gone .Ive found great dogs come in all shapes & sizes but If you can get a tidy spaniel x beagle or spaniel x JR terrier thats my choice of busher ,but its always a team effort that sees the game bag full . Whereabouts in NZ fella? Deep South ,a couple of hours away from here is central Otago where rabbits can be found in HUGE numbers . This was the result of one night using a PCP air rifle ,however for the most part I use the bushing dogs and shotgun & all the usual tools one has in youre country ,long nets purse nets ,ferret .I hardly fire a shot as the pack knows what it takes as some in their working life have been involed in catching up wards of 10,000 rabbits .What Ive found is with alot of hunting the average dog becomes a fully experienced average dog ,a good dog becomes a good experienced dog and a bloody cracker becomes something you smile and tip youre hat to.Nothing can match a great dog and when hunted over ,they give us so much enjoyment for very little in put. They return any investment of time & effort ten fold. Edited April 25, 2017 by toolebox 1 Quote Link to post
Rat face 1,655 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 Interesting to hear different lads views on this. Some good posts 1 Quote Link to post
krawnden 1,036 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 I hunt rabbits for a living ,mostly over a big pack of bushing dogs ,in New Zealand ,I like them to yap ,running slience is no good to me nor the others of the pack ,I dont know a rabbit has "lifted" .The noise helps move the rabbit around ,if it goes to ground I beleve it was always going to go there but at least with some noise I know where its gone .Ive found great dogs come in all shapes & sizes but If you can get a tidy spaniel x beagle or spaniel x JR terrier thats my choice of busher ,but its always a team effort that sees the game bag full . Whereabouts in NZ fella? Deep South ,a couple of hours away from here is central Otago where rabbits can be found in HUGE numbers . This was the result of one night using a PCP air rifle ,however for the most part I use the bushing dogs and shotgun & all the usual tools one has in youre country ,long nets purse nets ,ferret .I hardly fire a shot as the pack knows what it takes as some in their working life have been involed in catching up wards of 10,000 rabbits .What Ive found is with alot of hunting the average dog becomes a fully experienced average dog ,a good dog becomes a good experienced dog and a bloody cracker becomes something you smile and tip youre hat to.Nothing can match a great dog and when hunted over ,they give us so much enjoyment for very little in put. They return any investment of time & effort ten fold. Many years ago I spent some time working on a big sheep station near Waiakaia. What a glorious part of the world... I envy you Quote Link to post
Penda 3,341 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 I don't mind a yap but my old man always liked a quiet terrier on top knocking over out I'm not to fussed but it is abit on top of your on uncharted territory and the dogs tipping behind stuff my pointer bitch gives out like a hound sometimes depending what gets up Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,821 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Will a border terrier open up They will if you stand on their tongue when they're licking the bin 3 Quote Link to post
Hands of Stone 154 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 I agree with bird. A dog which hunts silently is nearly always on terms with its quarry when it breaks cover, also guns/lurchers will kill game that's not actually being hunted by the flushers so when the hunted quarry breaks cover your guns/lurchers are often uprepared. But Its is good fun to a have a miniature hunt underway! 1 Quote Link to post
Tigger99 1 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 I'm looking a Springer type to beat smaller sized bits if cover for foxes. Prefare something barking but not to fussy Quote Link to post
Tigger99 1 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Just getting to grips with this new smart phone. I am in Ireland. Where's my best bet to try find one. I here there costly if of gun dogs etc. Does anyone know my best bett? Quote Link to post
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