Welsh Sheepdog

[cantona 310]

Watched a programme about the Welsh sheepdog the other night, anybody used one as a lurcher cross ? Collie brains but bit more natural hunting?

[gnipper 6,016]

I watched it yesterday after reading something on another thread and thought about starting a similar thread. There's been plenty about fell collies and beardies etc but some of them Welsh collies looked handy sorts.

[trenchfoot 4,243]

The further from whistle controlled collies we get, the better it would be for breeding a lurcher from. Some of them Welsh collies bring a lot to the table. Especially if they are used to shifting cattle as well as sheep.

[keepitcovert 842]

Kate Humble was learning the hard way that her collie was more of a natural hunter than she was, herding instinct is hunting instinct no difference, just a different approach, one thing she learned was not to think she was mentally superior to her collie in herding. Collies can try your patience, but can reward you with great success at hunting, i have always said some people should not take on a dog that probably has a higher IQ than its owner, and im pretty sure thats why a lot of guys fail with collie blooded lurchers and dont like them. Must admit the welsh collies style interests me but with such a small gene pool chanches of owning one look pretty remote

[socks 32,253]

Tegan's sire was a nice type of Welsh collie ......

 

 

[gnipper 6,016]

Was he a Welsh collie or a border collie from Wales though socks?

[socks 32,253]

He was a Welsh hill collie ......

[trenchfoot 4,243]

Small. Welsh. And gene pool. Not three words I every expected to see you associated with Ken.

[beast 1,884]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McNab_dog

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Time_Farm_Shepherd

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Shepherd_dog

 

i very much suspect there are a few lines of these types of dogs still in existence; there are some very isolated communities in some parts of the states and it would be fascinating to do a bit of research. i believe they come from the same root stock as modern border collies, kelpies etc but separated many generations ago

[forest of dean redneck 11,197]

The Americans seem big on reviving the scotch collie,they got website for it,

[shaaark 10,182]

Went with my ex to pick her welsh sheepdog bitch up from john davies in aberystwyth, 2005 I think..

He had a cracking litter there, sired by a big, rangy black and tan dog. Superb looking dog.

I don't think the gene pool is small as such, they just aint as common as border collies

[breeze 1,228]

Socks... Nice looking animal mate, but i also watched that programme and couldnt believe

what a variation of size and colours that the "welsh" came in, some actually looked terrier ish in the head

[Blackdog92 2,047]

Went with my ex to pick her welsh sheepdog bitch up from john davies in aberystwyth, 2005 I think..

He had a cracking litter there, sired by a big, rangy black and tan dog. Superb looking dog.

I don't think the gene pool is small as such, they just aint as common as border collies

There just the same as the fell dogs you get here in the lakes apart from you need to speak welsh to work them lol.

[bird 9,598]

Socks... Nice looking animal mate, but i also watched that programme and couldnt believe

what a variation of size and colours that the "welsh" came in, some actually looked terrier ish in the head

arnt welsh collies + border collies near enough the same type dogs, ok some might go bit bigger (welsh) but you can get big borders as well, seen some 24in , and end of the day there all herding dogs , that are over sensitive that think to much lol, rather have kelpie or acd thats x back to a running dog, think a acd x to whippet or whippet x grey, make great lurcher stronger mentally / physically than any border type collie .. if i ever ever had herding type again in the future it be acd x whippet

[forest of dean redneck 11,197]

If you can find one bird ,i would go with the shepherd x ,they need work but not as bad as the other herding dogs for going crazy and having bad habits.