Warned Today Off The Police

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I agree with an earlier post that it is not a good idea to use devices that can injure anyone. There are all sorts of scenarios which could result in an unintended victim. However some kind of effective security is a must by the sound of it.

[Guest Navek]

Use gamekeeper alam trip wire use a 12 gauge full of rice or rock salt at foot on knee level....

 

Or hook up to an electric source enough to not want to get electrocuted again but not kill them........

 

Unless you no a pig farmer or a polish man( them feckers eat anything too )

[martyn2233 2,243]

Get one of these http://www.henrykrank.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_44_47&products_id=2964

 

And some of these

 

http://www.henrykrank.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=57_58&products_id=1303

[j j m 6,483]

Moved a few things around today in case I did get another visit.hopefully no one will come and this will be the end of it

[Frontbum 76]

If you set a gamekeeper alarm in a steel tube it really increases the sound of the bang and if you can get that at ear level hopefully do a little damage to the feckers ear drum

Edited September 23, 2015 by Frontbum

[mad4it 694]

set gamekeeper alarm mines with 12g shot gun shells with the shot taken out and the wad left in over old paint tins with paint left in when they go of the paint go over the person who set it off.

[DIDO.1 21,067]

I agree that the law stinks at times.....but....Tony Martin shot 2 men, one of them was shot in the back as the ran away across the garden.....and he didn't really spend much time in jail for it ( he was also an anti)

 

Use your brain and you can do things to protect your home. As has been said before,when setting any trap always take kids into account....

[ryaldinhio 4,141]

Tony Martin

a) shot two people who were tresspasing - no problem with that

lied to the police about how things happened

c) lied in court about how it had happened

d) shot them with an unliscenced shotgun - he had his sgc revoked for threatening to shoot people in the local village

e) upon searchin the house several unliscenced firearms were found which he also lied about.

 

I dont disagree with what he did but he also did several other things which were why he didnt get away with it.

 

There was a chap in wales last year caught two blokes robbin his business sheds, he caught em one of em got two broken legs and a broken arm, the other he kept hold of till the police came. He was cleared of gbh but was looking at a prison spell if he was guilty, the two he caught were charged and found guilty and got 100quid fine or summat!!!

 

You are allowed to use reasonable force to apprehend a criminal and make a citizens arrest, its if you carry on once they are apprehended that its thin ice.

[tomburras 2,722]

Its a shame you get into trouble for defending your own property. A burglar steals hard earned property, cause damage to and invades the privacy of your home. That is a very very serious thing for them to do and if something bad happens back to them - thats the risk they take! end of........if they are defended for this then it is disgusting IMO.

[neems 2,406]

Tony Martin

a) shot two people who were tresspasing - no problem with that

lied to the police about how things happened

c) lied in court about how it had happened

d) shot them with an unliscenced shotgun - he had his sgc revoked for threatening to shoot people in the local village

e) upon searchin the house several unliscenced firearms were found which he also lied about.

 

I dont disagree with what he did but he also did several other things which were why he didnt get away with it.

 

There was a chap in wales last year caught two blokes robbin his business sheds, he caught em one of em got two broken legs and a broken arm, the other he kept hold of till the police came. He was cleared of gbh but was looking at a prison spell if he was guilty, the two he caught were charged and found guilty and got 100quid fine or summat!!!

 

You are allowed to use reasonable force to apprehend a criminal and make a citizens arrest, its if you carry on once they are apprehended that its thin ice.

You can only use reasonable force to arrest someone,but if/when it comes to having to defend yourself (they'll probably attack you to escape) you do not need to weigh up to a nicety how much force you use.

 

i.e he punches you and tries to follow up and you hit him before his second shot lands and he ends up in bits on the floor,you should still be fine.

[neil cooney 10,415]

Over 20 years ago near me there was a bachelor farmer who had been burgled so often he hardly had a chair to sit on.

He was in the kitchen one day and heard the intruders in the sitting room. He grabbed the rifle, ran into the sitting room, killed one scumbag instantly and wounded the other as he got out the window.

Their van was sitting at the gate with the engine running and in the van was one of their wives with a baby on her knee.

Anyways, I know the officer who arrested the farmer and took him to the station and sat down to have a recorded interview.

The police man felt sorry for the farmer and thought to himself that he'd help in anyway possible.

The cop turned on the tape recorder and said loudly to the farmer "Tell me, were you in fear of your life ?"

The farmer shouted back "I was in my bollocks, and if anymore of them come back I'll do the same again."

Needless to say the interview had to be restarted.

[johnny boy68 11,725]

 

There was a chap in wales last year caught two blokes robbin his business sheds, he caught em one of em got two broken legs and a broken arm, the other he kept hold of till the police came. He was cleared of gbh but was looking at a prison spell if he was guilty, the two he caught were charged and found guilty and got 100quid fine or summat!!!

 

You are allowed to use reasonable force to apprehend a criminal and make a citizens arrest, its if you carry on once they are apprehended that its thin ice.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-25856722

[Hunting loon 100]

It's almost like the police are protecting the criminals beacuse if the theifs brake in and steal from you then you can bet your selfs the police would take forever to come out and then most likely not be able to do anything about it anyway the people have to protect there property and not rely on the police

aye well they have been protecting and covering up the the high profile pedos long enough so why nae protect criminals ? Wasn't there a thing in the news as police are understaffed they will not attended all homes broken into that in fact each police force will only visit homes by deciding if to visit odd or even numbers not on the basis of the likely hood of case Edited September 24, 2015 by Hunting loon

[Born Hunter 17,645]

Tony Martin

a) shot two people who were tresspasing - no problem with that

lied to the police about how things happened

c) lied in court about how it had happened

d) shot them with an unliscenced shotgun - he had his sgc revoked for threatening to shoot people in the local village

e) upon searchin the house several unliscenced firearms were found which he also lied about.

 

I dont disagree with what he did but he also did several other things which were why he didnt get away with it.

 

 

Excluding b, c, d and e, Martin would have still been f****d. He shot and killed an intruder who posed no immediate threat to his or anybody else's life. Using a firearm is perfectly justifiable legally, but only if there is an immediate threat to life and that level of force was necessary to protect the victim's right to life. Very simply, if an intruder is running away, they present no immediate threat, so to shoot is really taking chances with the courts.

 

I think that all that is bollocks, but that's my understanding of the law. Just because an intruder is running away doesn't mean they are no longer a threat. It must be terrifying finding yourself outnumbered by intruders in your own home. Some people are of the nature not to hide or freeze but to be proactive and engage the threat, that doesn't mean they're any less terrified. Should these people have to assume that only the intruders actually attacking them are threats? So someone running away can't double back on you? Bullshit! You've been put in a situation which you have to assume is life and death, the law should recognise that.

Edited September 24, 2015 by Born Hunter

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

 

 

Tony Martin

a) shot two people who were tresspasing - no problem with that

lied to the police about how things happened

c) lied in court about how it had happened

d) shot them with an unliscenced shotgun - he had his sgc revoked for threatening to shoot people in the local village

e) upon searchin the house several unliscenced firearms were found which he also lied about.

 

I dont disagree with what he did but he also did several other things which were why he didnt get away with it.

 

Excluding b, c, d and e, Martin would have still been f****d. He shot and killed an intruder who posed no immediate threat to his or anybody else's life. Using a firearm is perfectly justifiable legally, but only if there is an immediate threat to life and that level of force was necessary to protect the victim's right to life. Very simply, if an intruder is running away, they present no immediate threat, so to shoot is really taking chances with the courts.

 

I think that all that is bollocks, but that's my understanding of the law. Just because an intruder is running away doesn't mean they are no longer a threat. It must be terrifying finding yourself outnumbered by intruders in your own home. Some people are of the nature not to hide or freeze but to be proactive and engage the threat, that doesn't mean they're any less terrified. Should these people have to assume that only the intruders actually attacking them are threats? So someone running away can't double back on you? Bullshit! You've been put in a situation which you have to assume is life and death, the law should recognise that.

You've also got to have a good excuse for holding the firearm at the time. Arming yourself with a firearm in order to confront intruders is premeditation and will land you in very serious shit if an intruder is injured or complains.