Quarter bull 240 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Doesnt matter, still testable an observable, unlike naturalistic evoloution, a faith an beleif. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Religion is older than the book and that is provable, but as for if it is real well thats another matter, before the written word, stories were told from generation to generation, chinese whispers and all that................................. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Your following what another man says, a scientist better to follow the supposed ramblings of some bronze age jews? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Evoloution is a philosophy that helps man get rid of God. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Your following what another man says, a scientist better to follow the supposed ramblings of some bronze age jews? Bronze age jews, thats a good one, still follows scientist tho, an his nu proven religon, sorry, theory theory Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey Finn 2,710 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Iit's easy to knock and ridicule because the alternative is to become un-cool so it's much easier not to really question what is taught. As a young lad I was the same. Wonder how many will mock before departing this planet. Said it before there are no atheists on a burning aeroplane. That's all I have to say on this post as it's becoming tedious now. Praying to god in the face of death is a sign of desperation that many of us may experience, doesn't necessarily mean enlightenment......I'm more interested in the atrocities committed by the religious.....whether it's child rape or all out war, what do their prayers consist of then? Catholics, Muslims, Christians, Jews etc etc.....just seems like a facade to me, a 'get out of jail card'..... Sorry, I don't buy the first part. I've been in harms way more times than I can even remember. I don't call on God out of desperation. I call because I know what he can do for me. For the crimes, wars, and all the rest. That is human beings doing what human beings do. If you do evil you are not all that religious are you? ATB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haymin 2,465 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 The clangers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,639 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 My god! If I read one more time that the big bang theory is something from nothing I'm going to have a big f***ing bang of my own.what is the theory now mate Very simply, the universe (space-time and all the its energy) several billions years ago expanded from a physical singularity. Everything we have in the universe now has evolved from that singularity. And despite the bullshit, that theory has been thoroughly tested and as so accepted as fact. No where in any of mainstream science is something or anything claimed to be created from nothing! The big bang theory does NOT claim to explain how the universe was created, only how what we have and see today has developed and came to be. The events prior to the singularity are not understood, much less tested and all that we have now WAS there before. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Very simply, the universe (space-time and all the its energy) several billions years ago expanded from a physical singularity. Where did these come from? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 And despite the bullshit, that theory has been thoroughly tested and as so accepted as fact. Your being sneaky born, the theory that the universe had a beginning. Is that what you mean? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Iit's easy to knock and ridicule because the alternative is to become un-cool so it's much easier not to really question what is taught. As a young lad I was the same. Wonder how many will mock before departing this planet. Said it before there are no atheists on a burning aeroplane. That's all I have to say on this post as it's becoming tedious now. Praying to god in the face of death is a sign of desperation that many of us may experience, doesn't necessarily mean enlightenment......I'm more interested in the atrocities committed by the religious.....whether it's child rape or all out war, what do their prayers consist of then? Catholics, Muslims, Christians, Jews etc etc.....just seems like a facade to me, a 'get out of jail card'..... Sorry, I don't buy the first part. I've been in harms way more times than I can even remember. I don't call on God out of desperation. I call because I know what he can do for me. For the crimes, wars, and all the rest. That is human beings doing what human beings do. If you do evil you are not all that religious are you? ATB Tell that to the Vatican..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,639 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Where did the universe come from? f**k knows. Give us another 100 years and we might be able to tell you. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 The big bang theory does NOT claim to explain how the universe was created, Yes thats my point, its put across to the masses, that the big bang is how we were created, only scientific folk or people who checked it out, knows better. how the universe was created, Thanks for that born, glad you agree with me mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 If you didnt notice, I was quoting born, then rebuttal, of my own, above Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rodp 316 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 My god! If I read one more time that the big bang theory is something from nothing I'm going to have a big f***ing bang of my own.what is the theory now mate Very simply, the universe (space-time and all the its energy) several billions years ago expanded from a physical singularity. Everything we have in the universe now has evolved from that singularity. And despite the bullshit, that theory has been thoroughly tested and as so accepted as fact. No where in any of mainstream science is something or anything claimed to be created from nothing! The big bang theory does NOT claim to explain how the universe was created, only how what we have and see today has developed and came to be. The events prior to the singularity are not understood, much less tested and all that we have now WAS there before. True, it accepted as fact now. The only thing not quite understood is what was there before. One theory is that if you travel far enough in space you go back to the beginning, full circle if you like. As all the planets are travelling away from the initial "big bang" it's thought perhaps they may all just do the full circle, collide and start again. The evidence is out there somewhere, it's just a very big place to search. As for all this "not fact" and "supposed facts" trying to disprove actual scientific facts, all I can say is I will not trust any "fact" that comes from a religious body. You could say they may be a little biased seeing as how their not inconsiderable income depends on it. I have still to see one actual fact, or reasonable theory, that would prove either the existence of God or even the possibility of it being true. Scientific fact that is, from a university or similar unbiased entity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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