Smithfield , Tumblers....

[Top Lamper 2k10 169]

Got a dog here Wat he bred had him 11 year now had a few dogs now not many made the same grade as my old dog best lurcher I've ever owned done everything I've asked of him would Lovett hav another lyk him

[jossa 964]

I had this conversation the other day, imo the line no longer exists. If you want a good all round catch dog I would be getting a deerhound greyhound collie greyhound.

[desertbred 5,490]

Smithfield collies as far as I know were just welsh hill collies that were used to drive flocks of sheep on the roads starting in wales and picking up smaller flocks on the way to Smithfield Market in London in the late 1800.s the drovers used to keep a few running dogs also for the odd bit of poaching along the way as it was a long walk these running dogs and the sheep dogs were often mated and that is were the Smithfield tag came from in the late 50,s early 60.s a lot of the coursing dogs were referred to as Smithfield crosses .

[neil cooney 10,415]

Smithfield because that's probably where they were droving too.

Two of my fathers uncles were cattle dealers who'd drive cattle on the road from 40 or 50 miles away to the port in Dublin and they used a collie crossed with a labrador , the lab giving strength to turn 3 or 4 year old cattle.

Drovers used all sorts.

[hare_n_hounds 157]

I've found me a pup finaly! Deerhound greyhound x collie greyhound! Will get her Friday ?

[Chid 6,379]

Smithfields = mongrelised farm dogs ..

[desertbred 5,490]

Most of the Drovers used to meet up at Smithfield from the sheep producing areas and no doubt sold and exchanged dogs most of the old time running lads from down south used to run black and white smooth and rough coated dogs these were always referred to as Smithfield /greys though they had whippet , bedlington and many other lines in them also the Norfolk tumblers where used as cattle droving dogs and the tumbler name allegedly derived from them tumbling of the cattle backs in the cattle pens these were running dog crosses also.

Edited January 3, 2015 by desertbred

[blue staffy 145]

Seen a few mick douglas bred dogs they were good all rounders was speaking to a boy other day he says smithfeild collies are still used in New Zealand for working cattle and sheep and a small fortune would get you a pup sent over here

[Giro 2,648]

Desert Bred - Not trying to be insulting old old are you chap ??

 

Was you kicking about in them days or just clued up ??

 

Genuine question mate..

 

 

Think Phil Lloyd had some right old pictures of collie types - on forums few years back on similar topic..

 

Them ones Burrel breeds don't even seem to throw a type..

[tatsblisters 8,079]

Just lurcher to lurcher bred dogs with a clever marketing ploy to convince the gullible to part with their money for an overpriced lurcher.

[blackmaggie 3,375]

has been said its just a name to add coin to a litter he will tell you anything his lines are 100s of years old bred from this historic line or from that best bet just get something from parents that do what you want and forget the shite he comes out with

[tatsblisters 8,079]

TBF I have never spoke to the man and by the sounds of it hes just tapped into a marketing ploy that people will still fall for as long as lurchers exsist.I can remember these types advertised regular in the old exchange and mart in the late 70s with their sales pitch boosted by pictures in Walshes lurchers and longdogs.

[gvc 491]

This dog was bred by Jeff. Very easy to train marked, retrived ,lamped and ferreted. He was a very handy dog 100% single handed and made the fast rabbits look easy. He was an excellent all rounder and a joy to own. I'm not making a statement about all his dogs because this is the only one I've had anything to do with but I'd have him again in a hart beat.

[tatsblisters 8,079]

I have heard some good reports about the type i dont think its the actual dogs people are crabbing its his sales pitch thats comeing under scrutiny.

[trenchfoot 4,243]

This dog was bred by Jeff. Very easy to train marked, retrived ,lamped and ferreted. He was a very handy dog 100% single handed and made the fast rabbits look easy. He was an excellent all rounder and a joy to own. I'm not making a statement about all his dogs because this is the only one I've had anything to do with but I'd have him again in a hart beat.

thats a good honest review. would you pay £500?