*The*Field*Marshall* 674 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Baw, I believe in God and I make no apology for it. But if you think I believe in a god like you described "a guy in the clouds" I'd best elaborate a little. . I believe in the God of the bible: a triune, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, uncreated creator, who is not limited to a body like ours. . To say that the crimes committed by the Spanish inquisition made the nazis look like naughty schoolboys is a deplorable statement and something only a complete and utter idiot would say. I'll play no further participation in this thread. ATB 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Baw LOL, I think individual faith and religion is a little more complex than that. not really mate, it's an easy enough question, do you believe in god, yes or no? If yes, do you really believe a guys floating in the sky looking down right now? Yes But if the answer to that is no it doesn't mean they don't have their own faith and interpretation of religion does it. That was my point. It's a very personal thing, I don't believe religion is bad..... and faith is perfectly natural. If people want to follow a religion and they are a better person for it then fair play to them. I just think you have oversimplified it all. How can you be religious and not believe in god? Surely that can't be possible? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,638 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Baw LOL, I think individual faith and religion is a little more complex than that. not really mate, it's an easy enough question, do you believe in god, yes or no? If yes, do you really believe a guys floating in the sky looking down right now? Yes But if the answer to that is no it doesn't mean they don't have their own faith and interpretation of religion does it. That was my point. It's a very personal thing, I don't believe religion is bad..... and faith is perfectly natural. If people want to follow a religion and they are a better person for it then fair play to them. I just think you have oversimplified it all. How can you be religious and not believe in god? Surely that can't be possible? You have made the assertion that God IS a man floating in the sky. I don't think many actually believe that. I think it's fair to say most have a different image/feeling of what God is. Like I said, it's complicated and very personal to the individual. I can respect that. Edited January 14, 2014 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Baw, I believe in God and I make no apology for it. But if you think I believe in a god like you described "a guy in the clouds" I'd best elaborate a little. . I believe in the God of the bible: a triune, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, uncreated creator, who is not limited to a body like ours. . To say that the crimes committed by the Spanish inquisition made the nazis look like naughty schoolboys is a deplorable statement and something only a complete and utter idiot would say. I'll play no further participation in this thread. ATB Oh dear, well this utter idiot actually knows what the Spanish inquisition and others did to five million women in the burning times, ok perhaps not a good analogy with the nazis, but deplorable or otherwise, your religion has killed thousands and thousands of inoccent people over the centuries, and curiously in the name of such a peace loving being who died for our sins, do I detect a tone of defense for the inquisition in your statement? Or is it time confession? Edited January 14, 2014 by charlie caller Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Baw LOL, I think individual faith and religion is a little more complex than that. not really mate, it's an easy enough question, do you believe in god, yes or no? If yes, do you really believe a guys floating in the sky looking down right now? Yes But if the answer to that is no it doesn't mean they don't have their own faith and interpretation of religion does it. That was my point. It's a very personal thing, I don't believe religion is bad..... and faith is perfectly natural. If people want to follow a religion and they are a better person for it then fair play to them. I just think you have oversimplified it all. How can you be religious and not believe in god? Surely that can't be possible? You have made the assertion that God IS a man floating in the sky. I don't think many actually believe that. I think it's fair to say most have a different image/feeling of what God is. Like I said, it's complicated and very personal to the individual. I can respect that. I was brought up a catholic mate, were you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
torchey 1,202 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Baw, I believe in God and I make no apology for it. But if you think I believe in a god like you described "a guy in the clouds" I'd best elaborate a little. . I believe in the God of the bible: a triune, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, uncreated creator, who is not limited to a body like ours. . To say that the crimes committed by the Spanish inquisition made the nazis look like naughty schoolboys is a deplorable statement and something only a complete and utter idiot would say. I'll play no further participation in this thread. ATB Nearly 45yrs old and words i,ve never heard of,,,,wheres me dictionary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Baw, I believe in God and I make no apology for it. But if you think I believe in a god like you described "a guy in the clouds" I'd best elaborate a little. . I believe in the God of the bible: a triune, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, uncreated creator, who is not limited to a body like ours. . To say that the crimes committed by the Spanish inquisition made the nazis look like naughty schoolboys is a deplorable statement and something only a complete and utter idiot would say. I'll play no further participation in this thread. ATB If you had been raised your entire life never having heard of any gods or religions,and at the age you are now discovered Christianity,do you really think you'd become a follower? That should be the test of a religion IMO. Because I'm sure with enough 'education' you could raise any child to believe anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Baw, I believe in God and I make no apology for it. But if you think I believe in a god like you described "a guy in the clouds" I'd best elaborate a little. . I believe in the God of the bible: a triune, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, uncreated creator, who is not limited to a body like ours. . To say that the crimes committed by the Spanish inquisition made the nazis look like naughty schoolboys is a deplorable statement and something only a complete and utter idiot would say. I'll play no further participation in this thread. ATB Obviously he isn't restricted to a body like ours he's god after all so tell me mate, after he created man etc, what's he done since this god? Has he had his feet up all this time? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Baw, I believe in God and I make no apology for it. But if you think I believe in a god like you described "a guy in the clouds" I'd best elaborate a little. . I believe in the God of the bible: a triune, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, uncreated creator, who is not limited to a body like ours. . To say that the crimes committed by the Spanish inquisition made the nazis look like naughty schoolboys is a deplorable statement and something only a complete and utter idiot would say. I'll play no further participation in this thread. ATB If you had been raised your entire life never having heard of any gods or religions,and at the age you are now discovered Christianity,do you really think you'd become a follower? That should be the test of a religion IMO. Because I'm sure with enough 'education' you could raise any child to believe anything. I think Santa Claus proves that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waz 4,210 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I dont know whats worse some Jehovas Witness knocking on your door trying to force their opinions on you or people trying to force you to believe all religion is made up lies and terrible etc etc............. Religion is out there..... if you want it take it......if you dont want it dont take it.... its that simple but you dont need to tell people they are wrong if they do that makes you no better than the Jehovas lot in my opinion. Agree, you pay your money & you take your choice. & dont forget......... Atheism a not for profit religion. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Baw, I believe in God and I make no apology for it. But if you think I believe in a god like you described "a guy in the clouds" I'd best elaborate a little. . I believe in the God of the bible: a triune, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, uncreated creator, who is not limited to a body like ours. . To say that the crimes committed by the Spanish inquisition made the nazis look like naughty schoolboys is a deplorable statement and something only a complete and utter idiot would say. I'll play no further participation in this thread. ATB Nearly 45yrs old and words i,ve never heard of,,,,wheres me dictionary Baw, I believe in God and I make no apology for it. But if you think I believe in a god like you described "a guy in the clouds" I'd best elaborate a little. . I believe in the God of the bible: a triune, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, uncreated creator, who is not limited to a body like ours. . To say that the crimes committed by the Spanish inquisition made the nazis look like naughty schoolboys is a deplorable statement and something only a complete and utter idiot would say. I'll play no further participation in this thread. ATB Nearly 45yrs old and words i,ve never heard of,,,,wheres me dictionary I am sure you have mate, but nevertheless they are all excellent words used by people to convey the mystery and all seeing potency of our supposed creator, a bit of modern spin if you like on the old, lord moves in mysterious ways his wonders to perform mantra, in other words when ever a persons faith was tested, IE a loved one died young or a catastrophe happened, the f***in mealy mouthed priests would sooth the poor victim with these words of wisdom, because the w***ers had nothing else to say and no explanation in other words blind faith, and subservience to the church of Rome. Edited January 14, 2014 by charlie caller 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy pepper 222 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 i no one thing for sure religion dont pay the bills Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 i no one thing for sure religion dont pay the billsUnless your a priest or vicar. In which case it'll not only pay the bills but you'll be able to afford all the rent boys and child porn you want. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tandors 888 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hail woden 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hail woden Hail Woden 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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