Coursing.changing Public Opinion

[Leeview 787]

 

To be honest I rarely hear anyone moaning about coursing being barbaric .....mostly the issue seems to be about its association with pikeys, the money element, driving land with no perm, the dog thefts, the groups of multiple lads and dogs and the plastering of it all over the Internet .........

 

Most folk don't give a rats arse about the hare, hence why they all get shot!

Coursing was done with the landowners permission. The issues you mention are brought about by people with no permission to be on the land,the landowners/farmers dont want them on their land "trespassing in search of game" So Coursing gets blamed again

Y.I.S Leeview

[Ideation 8,216]

 

To be honest I rarely hear anyone moaning about coursing being barbaric .....mostly the issue seems to be about its association with pikeys, the money element, driving land with no perm, the dog thefts, the groups of multiple lads and dogs and the plastering of it all over the Internet .........

 

Most folk don't give a rats arse about the hare, hence why they all get shot!

Coursing was done with the landowners permission. The issues you mention are brought about by people with no permission to be on the land,the landowners/farmers dont want them on their land "trespassing in search of game" So Coursing gets blamed again

Y.I.S Leeview

 

 

That was my point

[johnny 2 367]

To be honest I rarely hear anyone moaning about coursing being barbaric .....mostly the issue seems to be about its association with pikeys, the money element, driving land with no perm, the dog thefts, the groups of multiple lads and dogs and the plastering of it all over the Internet .........

 

Most folk don't give a rats arse about the hare, hence why they all get shot!

My point was if you look on the net,when lads have been caught coursing,the posts by antis think hare coursing is barbaric.Ill Informed fools

[Hydropotesinermis 724]

Around here the cnuts that come coursing without any permission are the same little sh1ts driving 4x4's through crops, stealing diesel, metal, machinery, anything that isn't nailed down. These ar5eholes ruin the image of the boys that just want a bit of sport, and have the quarry's interests at heart as no quarry = no sport. My boss has us flat out shooting Hares and Deer so there are none on the place in the hope that these scumbags will take their theiving mits elsewhere.

[trenchfoot 4,243]

 

To be honest I rarely hear anyone moaning about coursing being barbaric .....mostly the issue seems to be about its association with pikeys, the money element, driving land with no perm, the dog thefts, the groups of multiple lads and dogs and the plastering of it all over the Internet .........

Most folk don't give a rats arse about the hare, hence why they all get shot!

 

My point was if you look on the net,when lads have been caught coursing,the posts by antis think hare coursing is barbaric.Ill Informed fools

True, but who is informing them? A phrase springs to mind, "if I have to explain, you will never understand". The thought of a creature being killed by dogs is abhorrent to a fair percentage of the population, and as such enlightening them will be difficult to say the least. Since coursing is illegal, it makes it harder to defend it principles and easier for the powers that be to slander. As I stated before, we need representative bodies to grow some, and do their job. However that job will never be easy when there are dickheads with dogs, no permission to be on the land(except for footpaths), acting like plastic pikeys, pissing on all our chips!!!! Edited December 17, 2013 by trenchfoot

[boyo 1,398]

Boyo, Inan: that was the scariest thing: being squashed at the front of the march, right up against a copper who seemed like a brick wall and ten feet tall. When I told him he was squashing me, he told me to move back Yeah right: with I don't know how many thousand people behind. The only time I have felt truly frightened. But by all accounts that side of the march was child's play compared to what went on in the square.

skycat i went down under truncheons in that square lost my shoes and beat black and blue and chipped a bone in my arm , but on the floor by the side of me was a old guy in his eighties covered in blood where he had been smashed in face with truncheons . he was the one who was all over front pages of newspapers all week . and all those knocking the hunts , they were first ones up along with the welsh boys and took a real beating .that day sticking up for what they beleived in thats what makes it so galling when people who werent even there shout their mouth of about what should have been done .

[boyo 1,398]

Yeah Parliment Sqyare

A group of us from up here went

Met up with some of our Welsh Pals

And caught up.

Plenty didn't bother with any of the Marches from

97 onwards

The Shame

Rumours of the Real Countryside Allience

Stepping up efforts were legendary

But they were nothing to do with those who ran

The Countryside Allience I bet because the ones I met were fooking Cowards

The c**t richard so and so from the North east the biggest most shameful coward walking

He took the silver from Bliar at Sedgefield one day and came out his house with raised fist proud as fook as if he had a charter just signed saying

Hunting was here for ever and a day the dopey

Fat cowardly c**t was hoodwinked.

max the real countryside alliance was not rumours ,100percent gauranteed. plenty of its members followers call them what you will were fined and ocasionally locked up and even risked losing their driving licences for the cause and that is again fact not rumours . and the organisers were still on the ca payroll all be it unoficially .and on the day who do you think organised the chaos in parliment square to correspond with otis ferry getting in to the chambers at the same time ,beleive me all that wasnt coincedence that just happened at that precise moment .it was carefully planned and monitered .

[inan 841]

I'm not saying the Real Countryside Alliance

Didn't exist

I'm saying the c**ts who were on the payroll

Of the Countryside Allience those regionaly high

Up were cowards from what I saw on numerous e

Occasions

And Parliment Square from what I saw was your

Normal Fieldsportsman/working class man and some women who did what they felt had to be done.

Overall no where near enough was done on numerous occasions or we wouldn't be where we were now

I will say this when the Hunting Ban was passed

That was the Beginning of the End as Britain

As we knew it

From that moment Goverment thought we have done this and got away with it

So we can do anything

And they have

Maybe the blame that not enough was done can be shared with those who couldn't be arsed to go on those demos and rallies?

 

I support the C/A because as far as I'm concerned its the "only game in town".

 

 

Lets be frank, the difference between the foxhunting followers and many of the coursing brigade is one word, it begins with P and ends with N.

If you are doing something you shouldn't be, but are on permission and have the consent of the landowner and are seen to be "complying with the strictures of the Hunting Act," you have an excellent chance of finishing the day without undue hassle, you may get a visit from Plod but it's unlikely to go much further than that.

 

If you are doing something you shouldn't be, without the landowners consent and you are reported to the Old Bill, the chances are you will have a bad ending to your day out.

 

Before anyone calls me an anti , or against Coursing ,don't bother, I'm just stating the facts as I see them.

 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2013 by inan

[shaddow 166]

Inan. Without these low lifes and non permission lads you wouldn't be able to brag about the parentage of your own dog. I believe it's taz x megan both animals bloodlines were solely bred by non permission men. CA done f**k all to protect the normal coursing man with or without permission.

[PoshPikey 560]

It made me livid when I was going on marches in London, Brighton, Bournemouth, Exeter, then London again because it was the only hope we had at the time.

 

I would meet people out shooting , fishing And Hunting who all said they couldn't be arsed and that it was a waste of time. That level of apathy from people within our sports is what did us in. We should have had EVERY single person who likes country sports - racing, horses, polo, hunting, shooting, fishing, we should have educated the Ramblers and the conservationists, Human Freedom activists etc etc .

 

Instead it was a wet squib. And I blame the CA as they are the only body who took the role on. We have too many independent fronts for the different sports unlike in Europe where each country has one and they stand in parliament and fight.

 

FFS we had less than half a million in London for the final push and yet look how many we could have had:

 

6.1m people have been freshwater or sea fishing in the past two years
4.2m people have been freshwater fishing in the past two years
1.9m people have been sea fishing in the past year (up to 2.8m in past two years)
4.9m anglers have been fishing in the last 10 years, but not the past two.

 

source : http://www.gofishing.co.uk/Angling-Times/Section/News--Catches/General-News/July-2010/Number-of-anglers-is-at-an-all-time-high/

 

No i doubt they all support hunting because it wa labelled as the "Foxhunters march" because the CA are cack BUT say some had turned up! Same form all these other bodies we would have destroyed London and wiped that stupid grin off Blair's face. It was ours for the taking and we f****d up and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. off to drink tea now because this makes me angry.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 14,626]

I am firmly of the opinion that if the act had banned all forms of artisan hunting ie lamping of foxes with lurchers, digging with terriers and fen land coursing but allowed the packs to continue unabated with a licensing system in place, they would have sold us down the river without a backward glance

 

We should have been more proactive, we should have chipped in a few quid each and made a documentary type programme showing lads digging humanely, boys on the fens running in the winter on permission, maybe in a contest type format shoeing the sporting nature and how it compares against hare shooting etc, we should have got people inside with the working classness of our sports, the ferreting, the lamping enthusiasts but mostly, we needed a figurehead , someone impeachable with no hidden gbh charges or penchants for crossdressing escorts who was capable of fighting our corner in a decent honest way rather than relying on some guy from the c a or basc to do it as a footnote

 

We missed a trick but in the climate of dog thieves and antis we surround ourselves with, why option did the common hunter have but to not put his head above the parapet and bury his head in the sand and hope the ban went away?

[andy97 209]

all in all were fcuked theres not a chance in hell there going to lift the ban on hare coursing with all the negative press however they are on about lifting the hunting with hounds probly because the tories have took a few backhanders and the huntsmen go to the same parties as the toff tawts

[inan 841]

Inan. Without these low lifes and non permission lads you wouldn't be able to brag about the parentage of your own dog. I believe it's taz x megan both animals bloodlines were solely bred by non permission men. CA done f**k all to protect the normal coursing man with or without permission.

First of all in the 45years I've had lurchers I have never bragged about any that I've owned.

Secondly I havent called anyone a low life or a non- permission man I' ve simply pointed out why some get hassle and some don' t.

The owner of Megan was at my house last night and we have been out together many times.I'm sure he will appreciate being referred to as a" low life".I was out in Lincs with the man who was central to starting both those lines off, two weeks ago he likewise will be chuffed to bits to be referred to that way Now, if what i have said is untrue regarding the difference between the hunts and the majority of coursers and the comparison between the hassle they respectively get then correct me.

[inan 841]

I am firmly of the opinion that if the act had banned all forms of artisan hunting ie lamping of foxes with lurchers, digging with terriers and fen land coursing but allowed the packs to continue unabated with a licensing system in place, they would have sold us down the river without a backward glance

 

We should have been more proactive, we should have chipped in a few quid each and made a documentary type programme showing lads digging humanely, boys on the fens running in the winter on permission, maybe in a contest type format shoeing the sporting nature and how it compares against hare shooting etc, we should have got people inside with the working classness of our sports, the ferreting, the lamping enthusiasts but mostly, we needed a figurehead , someone impeachable with no hidden gbh charges or penchants for crossdressing escorts who was capable of fighting our corner in a decent honest way rather than relying on some guy from the c a or basc to do it as a footnote

 

We missed a trick but in the climate of dog thieves and antis we surround ourselves with, why option did the common hunter have but to not put his head above the parapet and bury his head in the sand and hope the ban went away?

Who would have bought these documentaries?

 

What finer advert for coursing could there be than the original Forley Cups? How many of the general public who did not have a long dog, or an interest in field sports bought a copy?

I'm in a club, before the ban came in Sam Butler of the CA came to our AGM on a Sunday unpaid , and addressed the members , he was on the marches and reiterated a promise made by the C/A that they would not abandon any form of field sports. that promise still stands. I'm not an apologist for the C/A but who else is there?

I repeat they are the "only game in town"and I was in the BFS before they came along.

Edited December 18, 2013 by inan

[Giro 2,648]

Inan what are the C/A doing now and what plans ~ thoughts have they got for the future ??

 

I am 32 so have had pre ban and todays crack..

 

When the first march's were organised I was under 18 and still at college.. I could not afford to go and show support, nor would my parents of allowed it..

 

I would attend , promote anything that carried any weight with regards reinstating hunting - coursing to what it once was ..

 

Is there anything individuals can do at present that would be helpful ??

 

I have written to local Mps in the past.. I have been invited to a question and answer session by the local Mp in Feb .