Born Hunter 17,965 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 So you would be willing to convict them on that Paulus? no it would need a body first, but i wouldn't be nominating them for parents of the year either Neither would I, they f****d up. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RubyTex 1,957 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Do dogs lie? No. Do people? Yes. The dogs wouldn't be marking if there wasn't anything to mark...sorry mate Haha, of course a drug dog's never marked a mars bar.... I reiterate, the dogs wouldn't be marking if there wasn't anything to mark! Over 200 bodies marked and/or found but all of a sudden they're no good. Finding or marking dead bodies is bread and butter to a dog! RT your logic is flawed "the dog doesn't lie so they must be"? Yeah, water tight that. Over 200 marked or found, okay, how many of those were on the same time frame as this case? Has the dog never been wrong? If the dog is correct is that conclusive proof that the parents are guilty? RT it's this simple, the dog was brought in to direct the police investigation, not as a form of evidence. I don't believe you can convict a person based solely on that, you do, we disagree. No i don't believe you can convict someone either but it's a step in the right direction. The dogs were brought in to try and find something....what a surprise, they did! It needs a body or a confession which we aren't ever going to get. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Just a thought, but there was a window behind that sofa where the dog marked, does it face in the direction of that Tapas bar? Reading up online, apparently there are shutters to that apartment that are worked by cords or straps.. Not a stretch to suggest that after she woke the night before, her mother took her to that window, pointed out the Tapas bar and said something like don't worry, "mummy and daddy where only over there.." Little girl wakes up again and climbs onto the back of the sofa to see if she can see them, looses her balance, slips and gets caught on the shutter cords? This sort of thing sadly happens a fair bit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24321541 Pure speculation, but if she did die there, more plausible than her parents murdering her or overdosing her on sedative IMO.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,965 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Do dogs lie? No. Do people? Yes. The dogs wouldn't be marking if there wasn't anything to mark...sorry mate Haha, of course a drug dog's never marked a mars bar.... I reiterate, the dogs wouldn't be marking if there wasn't anything to mark! Over 200 bodies marked and/or found but all of a sudden they're no good. Finding or marking dead bodies is bread and butter to a dog! RT your logic is flawed "the dog doesn't lie so they must be"? Yeah, water tight that. Over 200 marked or found, okay, how many of those were on the same time frame as this case? Has the dog never been wrong? If the dog is correct is that conclusive proof that the parents are guilty? RT it's this simple, the dog was brought in to direct the police investigation, not as a form of evidence. I don't believe you can convict a person based solely on that, you do, we disagree. No i don't believe you can convict someone either but it's a step in the right direction. The dogs were brought in to try and find something....what a surprise, they did! It needs a body or a confession which we aren't ever going to get. So then, as I said it wasn't swept under the carpet to suit the parents, it's completely fecking useless! It led to no body and in the absence of other supporting evidence is in no way strong enough to be conclusive. Yet because of all that people are saying "oooo look it must be the parents". I just really don't see how it's logical or indeed just to say that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
04fox8 168 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Do dogs lie? No. Do people? Yes. The dogs wouldn't be marking if there wasn't anything to mark...sorry mate Haha, of course a drug dog's never marked a mars bar.... I reiterate, the dogs wouldn't be marking if there wasn't anything to mark! Over 200 bodies marked and/or found but all of a sudden they're no good. Finding or marking dead bodies is bread and butter to a dog! RT your logic is flawed "the dog doesn't lie so they must be"? Yeah, water tight that. Over 200 marked or found, okay, how many of those were on the same time frame as this case? Has the dog never been wrong? If the dog is correct is that conclusive proof that the parents are guilty? RT it's this simple, the dog was brought in to direct the police investigation, not as a form of evidence. I don't believe you can convict a person based solely on that, you do, we disagree. No i don't believe you can convict someone either but it's a step in the right direction. The dogs were brought in to try and find something....what a surprise, they did! It needs a body or a confession which we aren't ever going to get. Not atall. Maybe in this case to stop any further speculation, yes. But for a conviction...no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
04fox8 168 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Just a thought, but there was a window behind that sofa where the dog marked, does it face in the direction of that Tapas bar? Reading up online, apparently there are shutters to that apartment that are worked by cords or straps.. Not a stretch to suggest that after she woke the night before, her mother took her to that window, pointed out the Tapas bar and said something like don't worry, "mummy and daddy where only over there.." Little girl wakes up again and climbs onto the back of the sofa to see if she can see them, looses her balance, slips and gets caught on the shutter cords? This sort of thing sadly happens a fair bit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24321541 Pure speculation, but if she did die there, more plausible than her parents murdering her or overdosing her on sedative IMO.. Quite plausable, and 'down to earth' / realistic theory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bell 3,610 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Just a thought, but there was a window behind that sofa where the dog marked, does it face in the direction of that Tapas bar? Reading up online, apparently there are shutters to that apartment that are worked by cords or straps.. Not a stretch to suggest that after she woke the night before, her mother took her to that window, pointed out the Tapas bar and said something like don't worry, "mummy and daddy where only over there.." Little girl wakes up again and climbs onto the back of the sofa to see if she can see them, looses her balance, slips and gets caught on the shutter cords? This sort of thing sadly happens a fair bit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24321541 Pure speculation, but if she did die there, more plausible than her parents murdering her or overdosing her on sedative IMO.. Christ Columbo's on the case now 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RubyTex 1,957 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Do dogs lie? No. Do people? Yes. The dogs wouldn't be marking if there wasn't anything to mark...sorry mate Haha, of course a drug dog's never marked a mars bar.... I reiterate, the dogs wouldn't be marking if there wasn't anything to mark! Over 200 bodies marked and/or found but all of a sudden they're no good. Finding or marking dead bodies is bread and butter to a dog! RT your logic is flawed "the dog doesn't lie so they must be"? Yeah, water tight that. Over 200 marked or found, okay, how many of those were on the same time frame as this case? Has the dog never been wrong? If the dog is correct is that conclusive proof that the parents are guilty? RT it's this simple, the dog was brought in to direct the police investigation, not as a form of evidence. I don't believe you can convict a person based solely on that, you do, we disagree. No i don't believe you can convict someone either but it's a step in the right direction. The dogs were brought in to try and find something....what a surprise, they did! It needs a body or a confession which we aren't ever going to get. So then, as I said it wasn't swept under the carpet to suit the parents, it's completely fecking useless! It led to no body and in the absence of other supporting evidence is in no way strong enough to be conclusive. Yet because of all that people are saying "oooo look it must be the parents". I just really don't see how it's logical or indeed just to say that? Well it was swept under really because they didn't like what they were hearing so rubbished the dogs in the media....media scared of being sued spun it out to say the dogs were complete duffers and the nation went on thinking the little lassie was abducted...until now! We'll have to agree to disagree, i can see your argument but i think the dogs were right on this one. Malt although speculation that happens quite often and would fit in that corner of the room so you might be right. I fear we will never know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flipper_Al 1,012 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) looking real grief stricken not !! this is the first photo I have seen of them showing any type of emotion and it JOY at all that money And its a poor photoshop job.... Look at the hands in both pictures Edited October 16, 2013 by Flipper_Al Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,706 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Read and heard so much now I'm having bother remembering and I'm sure someone can confirm, were the dogs not used to check other cars in the parking lot and taken into other apartments around the Mccanns and marked nowhere else.. Edited October 16, 2013 by mackay 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I personally think they are both guilty of little maddys death ,im pretty good at judging guilt is in their eyes . I believe they drugged them to sleep that night and gave Madeleine too much , when they found her they hid her body im positive they will find her body burried and tests will show it was drug related Very risky letting there friend go and check a dead bairn wouldn't you say? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The one 8,595 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I personally think they are both guilty of little maddys death ,im pretty good at judging guilt is in their eyes . I believe they drugged them to sleep that night and gave Madeleine too much , when they found her they hid her body im positive they will find her body burried and tests will show it was drug related Very risky letting there friend go and check a dead bairn wouldn't you say? If there friends saw her laying on the bed that would of been enough they would of been happy and left Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The one 8,595 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Wonder if anybodies thought to give them a lie detector test Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,965 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Wonder if anybodies thought to give them a lie detector test If I was involved in anything like this there's not a snowballs chance in hell I'd be taking a lie detector test! Talk about tieing your own noose! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 someone sid in the other thread. he hired the car the day after? and it was a dead fish and rubbish the dog smelt, well for one i can see why maybe he would hire a car, to look for his kid. although i think most parents would be in bits and advised not to drive.and if they didnt,i sure as f**k wouldnt be taking hotel rubbish to a tip,and stopping to buy fish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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