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[jack lee 137]

 

 

As much as desertbred condemned what has happened in the the name of Islam he still openly admits hat he supports sharia law and only lives in this country because we TOLERATE his religion and if we didn't he would move his family to another country that did .... Says it all where Islam is involved you accept them completely no matter what ...........

While I seem to be flavour of the Month I will break my silence for the last time on this matter I said that I do not find anything here in the UK that prevents me ar my family following our Faith which is Islam. As Sharia l;aw is part of Islamic Fiqr basically the law of Islam and as far as Muslims are concerned a Law of Allah then it is part of our Faith How various people interpret this Law is for them to answer and for them to accept responsibility for if they dont understand it they go to a Mullah or islamic Scholar who interprets it for them this is where the problem arises some of these firebrand radical clerics that have been allowed into the countries around the world can distort and twist the laws much the same as barristers do in a court of law if a judge is not available to interpret the law correctly this in turn leads impressionable minds to be moulded in any direction for good or for bad, Now to come back to me as I dont find anything that is against islam here in the UK and I practice my faith as my faith and dont foist it on any one else thier is not a problem If a law was passed tomorrow that made it impossible for me and my family to live here peacefully and as a part of society in genral then yes I would make the choice and leave which seems perfectly reasonable to me or would you people rather that I become one of these radicalised muslim terrorists and try to impose Sharia and islam on you against your will that is not acceptable to you or me so where is my crime in saying yes I would leave rather than cause animosity or provoke violence on the streets I hope I have made my views clear what ever you choose to believe or not is your concern one thing I dont understand is why people assume we the ordinary Muslims dont try to stop this radicalisation we most certainly do but we are constrained by the same laws as you we cannot take action against these radicals within the law of the land Bin Laden Sadaam these 2 c**ts from Wednesday we dont want this type of people in any society they are pariahs and need to be destroyed,

I am reading and seeing a lot of computer heros on here making firebrand speeches and talk what they will do you will do what you must this is your god given right one thing that has kept me alive is I never make a decision without a clear head and never do anything in anger Because of my military background no doubt I am on a list some where but I expect they understand where I am coming from and maybe just maybe that is why I and my family are left aloneMost muslims the same as me want a peaceful life to raise our families that is why they choose to do it in a peaceful country like this, Now I have finished I will not post on this matter again.

 

What do you "ordinary Muslims" do to try and stop this radicalism then?..... These Muslim terrorists are representing your religion on my TV.

 

WELL SAID LAD they seem to be the first to start shouting racism,if anyone speakes out about there religion,to me they want it all there own way

[lanesra 4,027]

DB Can You Not See Why People Are Commenting The Way They Are . . Surely If I Lived In Pakistan And My Faith Was Acting Like This In A Muslim Land Id Not Need To Ask Google Why This Was Happening Towards My Religion . . It's Staring You In The Face FFS . . Put Sky News On And Watch The Family Off Lee Rigby And That My Friend Is The Straw That Has Broken The Camels Back Concerning People's Tollerance Off Islam !

[Malt 379]

 

As much as desertbred condemned what has happened in the the name of Islam he still openly admits hat he supports sharia law and only lives in this country because we TOLERATE his religion and if we didn't he would move his family to another country that did .... Says it all where Islam is involved you accept them completely no matter what ...........

 

While I seem to be flavour of the Month I will break my silence for the last time on this matter I said that I do not find anything here in the UK that prevents me ar my family following our Faith which is Islam. As Sharia l;aw is part of Islamic Fiqr basically the law of Islam and as far as Muslims are concerned a Law of Allah then it is part of our Faith How various people interpret this Law is for them to answer and for them to accept responsibility for if they dont understand it they go to a Mullah or islamic Scholar who interprets it for them this is where the problem arises some of these firebrand radical clerics that have been allowed into the countries around the world can distort and twist the laws much the same as barristers do in a court of law if a judge is not available to interpret the law correctly this in turn leads impressionable minds to be moulded in any direction for good or for bad, Now to come back to me as I dont find anything that is against islam here in the UK and I practice my faith as my faith and dont foist it on any one else thier is not a problem If a law was passed tomorrow that made it impossible for me and my family to live here peacefully and as a part of society in genral then yes I would make the choice and leave which seems perfectly reasonable to me or would you people rather that I become one of these radicalised muslim terrorists and try to impose Sharia and islam on you against your will that is not acceptable to you or me so where is my crime in saying yes I would leave rather than cause animosity or provoke violence on the streets I hope I have made my views clear what ever you choose to believe or not is your concern one thing I dont understand is why people assume we the ordinary Muslims dont try to stop this radicalisation we most certainly do but we are constrained by the same laws as you we cannot take action against these radicals within the law of the land Bin Laden Sadaam these 2 c**ts from Wednesday we dont want this type of people in any society they are pariahs and need to be destroyed,

I am reading and seeing a lot of computer heros on here making firebrand speeches and talk what they will do you will do what you must this is your god given right one thing that has kept me alive is I never make a decision without a clear head and never do anything in anger Because of my military background no doubt I am on a list some where but I expect they understand where I am coming from and maybe just maybe that is why I and my family are left aloneMost muslims the same as me want a peaceful life to raise our families that is why they choose to do it in a peaceful country like this, Now I have finished I will not post on this matter again.

Well mate, I've agreed with a lot of your posts on here and defended the work of a lot of decent Muslim doctors and nurses I've seen over the years, but I think we are now at a tipping point.. If the decent people in your communities don't act pretty soon and hound the troublemakers out of your lives via any means, lawful or otherwise, there is going to be a severe reaction from the decent people in ours.. I'm not taking about a few hundred pissed up lads fighting police and singing songs either.. The British people are probably some of the most tolerant in the world, but as many around the have found over hundreds of years, we are a very, very fierce people when roused..

[Qbgrey 4,409]

never a more truer word spoke on here ever.malt

[Nik_B 3,791]

The problem is decent people don't cause a fuss....we don't go out on the streets to tackle white drug dealers or other scum and lets be fair the decent Muslims are probably the same.

 

They might be guilty of ignoring problems in their own culture/society for a quiet life but so are we!

 

It's not fair to put the onus on the Muslim community it should be down to our government and police etc to root out the nutters and extremists and f**k them off out of the country. Once we start doing that we might all be able to live in peace..

 

DB doesn't sound liek one of the bradfordistan freaks that go round burning poppies and I think it only fair to give him a break

[nans pat 2,575]

Hearing 1 of them was approached to work as an informer for mi5 .so cameron coming out with all the oul balls doesnt wash.they no whos involved around the country in this carry on .if a few examples were made it would put the antics out of them .

[stabba 10,745]

The problem is decent people don't cause a fuss....we don't go out on the streets to tackle white drug dealers or other scum and lets be fair the decent Muslims are probably the same.

 

They might be guilty of ignoring problems in their own culture/society for a quiet life but so are we!

 

It's not fair to put the onus on the Muslim community it should be down to our government and police etc to root out the nutters and extremists and f**k them off out of the country. Once we start doing that we might all be able to live in peace..

 

DB doesn't sound liek one of the bradfordistan freaks that go round burning poppies and I think it only fair to give him a break

I think that's the trouble tbh...a lot of them come across as decent folk...until the exploding jacket comes into play...for example..ring leader of July bombings was a nursery school teacher or some such...How can you tell a decent guy just by a few random posts..you could be talking to Chowdry for all you know..unlikey I know but you get the gist im sure...atb NMF

[Malt 379]

 

The problem is decent people don't cause a fuss....we don't go out on the streets to tackle white drug dealers or other scum and lets be fair the decent Muslims are probably the same. They might be guilty of ignoring problems in their own culture/society for a quiet life but so are we! It's not fair to put the onus on the Muslim community it should be down to our government and police etc to root out the nutters and extremists and f**k them off out of the country. Once we start doing that we might all be able to live in peace.. DB doesn't sound liek one of the bradfordistan freaks that go round burning poppies and I think it only fair to give him a break

I think that's the trouble tbh...a lot of them come across as decent folk...until the exploding jacket comes into play...for example..ring leader of July bombings was a nursery school teacher or some such...How can you tell a decent guy just by a few random posts..you could be talking to Chowdry for all you know..unlikey I know but you get the gist im sure...atb NMF

Wasn't it a doctor who tried pulling that shit off at Glasgow airport too?

[Malt 379]

Yep...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilal_Abdullah

[The Seeker 3,048]

 

As much as desertbred condemned what has happened in the the name of Islam he still openly admits hat he supports sharia law and only lives in this country because we TOLERATE his religion and if we didn't he would move his family to another country that did .... Says it all where Islam is involved you accept them completely no matter what ...........

While I seem to be flavour of the Month I will break my silence for the last time on this matter I said that I do not find anything here in the UK that prevents me ar my family following our Faith which is Islam. As Sharia l;aw is part of Islamic Fiqr basically the law of Islam and as far as Muslims are concerned a Law of Allah then it is part of our Faith How various people interpret this Law is for them to answer and for them to accept responsibility for if they dont understand it they go to a Mullah or islamic Scholar who interprets it for them this is where the problem arises some of these firebrand radical clerics that have been allowed into the countries around the world can distort and twist the laws much the same as barristers do in a court of law if a judge is not available to interpret the law correctly this in turn leads impressionable minds to be moulded in any direction for good or for bad, Now to come back to me as I dont find anything that is against islam here in the UK and I practice my faith as my faith and dont foist it on any one else thier is not a problem If a law was passed tomorrow that made it impossible for me and my family to live here peacefully and as a part of society in genral then yes I would make the choice and leave which seems perfectly reasonable to me or would you people rather that I become one of these radicalised muslim terrorists and try to impose Sharia and islam on you against your will that is not acceptable to you or me so where is my crime in saying yes I would leave rather than cause animosity or provoke violence on the streets I hope I have made my views clear what ever you choose to believe or not is your concern one thing I dont understand is why people assume we the ordinary Muslims dont try to stop this radicalisation we most certainly do but we are constrained by the same laws as you we cannot take action against these radicals within the law of the land Bin Laden Sadaam these 2 c**ts from Wednesday we dont want this type of people in any society they are pariahs and need to be destroyed,

I am reading and seeing a lot of computer heros on here making firebrand speeches and talk what they will do you will do what you must this is your god given right one thing that has kept me alive is I never make a decision without a clear head and never do anything in anger Because of my military background no doubt I am on a list some where but I expect they understand where I am coming from and maybe just maybe that is why I and my family are left aloneMost muslims the same as me want a peaceful life to raise our families that is why they choose to do it in a peaceful country like this, Now I have finished I will not post on this matter again.

 

 

You seem like a decent sort of chap however i do have a few concerns over your views

 

Sharia Law is part of the islamic faith but can be interpreted in different ways? Surly anyone with any sense what so ever would not consider this an acceptable law? Come on mate think about what you are saying you consider Sharia Law acceptable but some people in you faith can wish a different enforcement of this law. Its a total sham.

As a family man would you want your daughters to be brought up in Afghanistan pre UK/US intervention when this Sharia law was in full swing???

 

Not a dig a you fella as I say you seem a decent chap but some of your comments seem rather ignorant.

 

If the Islamic community wanted to do something you/they could start by giving that c*nt Chhoudray a good hiding and getting him the f*ck out of this world.

 

ATB

[nans pat 2,575]

Mi5s all over them the goverment allows ..an accepteable level of vilonce..even them cops doing the shooting what was that all about where was the 1 behind the ear .in america they would be sacked.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

 

As much as desertbred condemned what has happened in the the name of Islam he still openly admits hat he supports sharia law and only lives in this country because we TOLERATE his religion and if we didn't he would move his family to another country that did .... Says it all where Islam is involved you accept them completely no matter what ...........

 

While I seem to be flavour of the Month I will break my silence for the last time on this matter I said that I do not find anything here in the UK that prevents me ar my family following our Faith which is Islam. As Sharia l;aw is part of Islamic Fiqr basically the law of Islam and as far as Muslims are concerned a Law of Allah then it is part of our Faith How various people interpret this Law is for them to answer and for them to accept responsibility for if they dont understand it they go to a Mullah or islamic Scholar who interprets it for them this is where the problem arises some of these firebrand radical clerics that have been allowed into the countries around the world can distort and twist the laws much the same as barristers do in a court of law if a judge is not available to interpret the law correctly this in turn leads impressionable minds to be moulded in any direction for good or for bad, Now to come back to me as I dont find anything that is against islam here in the UK and I practice my faith as my faith and dont foist it on any one else thier is not a problem If a law was passed tomorrow that made it impossible for me and my family to live here peacefully and as a part of society in genral then yes I would make the choice and leave which seems perfectly reasonable to me or would you people rather that I become one of these radicalised muslim terrorists and try to impose Sharia and islam on you against your will that is not acceptable to you or me so where is my crime in saying yes I would leave rather than cause animosity or provoke violence on the streets I hope I have made my views clear what ever you choose to believe or not is your concern one thing I dont understand is why people assume we the ordinary Muslims dont try to stop this radicalisation we most certainly do but we are constrained by the same laws as you we cannot take action against these radicals within the law of the land Bin Laden Sadaam these 2 c**ts from Wednesday we dont want this type of people in any society they are pariahs and need to be destroyed,

I am reading and seeing a lot of computer heros on here making firebrand speeches and talk what they will do you will do what you must this is your god given right one thing that has kept me alive is I never make a decision without a clear head and never do anything in anger Because of my military background no doubt I am on a list some where but I expect they understand where I am coming from and maybe just maybe that is why I and my family are left aloneMost muslims the same as me want a peaceful life to raise our families that is why they choose to do it in a peaceful country like this, Now I have finished I will not post on this matter again.

you seem to play the hard done by melodramatic lost sole then throw in my military service do me a favour fred. Might pull the old wool over some eyes i await your next last bleeding heart composition. Oh. And peaceful country like this yes it used to be until your. Tribe turned up Edited May 25, 2013 by gonetoearth

[Nik_B 3,791]

Mi5s all over them the goverment allows ..an accepteable level of vilonce..even them cops doing the shooting what was that all about where was the 1 behind the ear .in america they would be sacked.

 

exactly...so who is the real enemy?

[nans pat 2,575]

 

Mi5s all over them the goverment allows ..an accepteable level of vilonce..even them cops doing the shooting what was that all about where was the 1 behind the ear .in america they would be sacked.

 

exactly...so who is the real enemy?

theres an oul saying ruling by fooling .

[DeerhoundLurcherMan 997]

Religion will cause a ww3. I honestly believe it.

Edited May 25, 2013 by DeerhoundLurcherMan