I have had mine a while like Tyla, I bought it as a cheap shotgun. To take the knocks and not be worried, it's done that well I like it and shoot it a lot, but for clays and hide work I use a fabarm semi auto, and in fairness its a nice gun, apart from looks they both fire and cycle fine, both kill, it's a matter of preference, the newer hatsans are a lot better they say, for a rough gun to scrag around with, they are spot on in my opinion, but have no rear re-sale value, the markets flooded with them, but if you look around there's plenty of quality semi autos about at reasonable prices,