For arguments sake, we've got a bitch here which I know would give practically every dog I know a complete and utter kicking on ALL quarry, yep, ALL QUARRY, do you here or read of me challenging anyone? I think not, and you will not. You might have a better dog, good luck, whatever, competition with dogs is the ruination of dogs, and I know it hasn't been mentioned yet, but all the shit and nonsense 'plummer' and the like wrote about dogs is the main reason why youngsters getting into dogs these days haven't got much of a clue. Mods or whatever, feel free to delete this if you deem fit