Dmd, I just looked in the shed, and found my mountain bike, which I lent to my son a few years back and forgot about. Made by bmw, panic cbr, full suspension, 21 gears, and does what most people would need. I paid £315 for it new, about 15 years ago. Still in great condition. If you lived near me you could have it. Like dytkos says, I wouldn't be buying new again though ?