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NO I`d say it was obeying a basic command .So we should all let DOG chase DOLLY the sheep,just because he fancies it?. Now THAT is way off topic, stick breaking IS a basic command and stopping a dog chasing sheep is NO WAY in the same league as calling a dog of legitimate game, when most of the time you let it run and catch that game.
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can easily be done. 1/4 collie is a good place to start. not as sensitive as a half cross and a little more forgiving of mistakes. you may have to adapt your training methods from what you have had before, especially if its gundogs etc. as a true working lurcher needs to be able to think far more for itself at times. At the end of the day what you talk about is basic obedience and that should be the starting point for the training of any dog spot on regards 1/4 and 1x, 1/4 collie will be a good dog to learn with . Of all my dogs ive had, i would say my 3/8 bull 5/8 grey Tod ,
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Right ......... Um 50 + 25 + 25 = 100. . . . . what are H4H getting?
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can easily be done. 1/4 collie is a good place to start. not as sensitive as a half cross and a little more forgiving of mistakes. you may have to adapt your training methods from what you have had before, especially if its gundogs etc. as a true working lurcher needs to be able to think far more for itself at times. At the end of the day what you talk about is basic obedience and that should be the starting point for the training of any dog spot on regards 1/4 and 1x, 1/4 collie will be a good dog to learn with . Of all my dogs ive had, i would say my 3/8 bull 5/8 grey Tod ,
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can easily be done. 1/4 collie is a good place to start. not as sensitive as a half cross and a little more forgiving of mistakes. you may have to adapt your training methods from what you have had before, especially if its gundogs etc. as a true working lurcher needs to be able to think far more for itself at times. At the end of the day what you talk about is basic obedience and that should be the starting point for the training of any dog spot on regards 1/4 and 1x, 1/4 collie will be a good dog to learn with . Of all my dogs ive had, i would say my 3/8 bull 5/8 grey Tod ,
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I get what your saying mate and i agree both are optimum, a do or die attitude shouldnt over ride good training and a good dog/handler bond, i'm just betting that there are few dogs about that work well that if they were running game in open ground and had turned it a few times, were getting ready to put a strike in, and with a single command could be made to just give it up and come back. . . . .
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Which is all well and good, but how do you ACTUALLY train this? If i took your dogs, beat a hare past them, slipped them and after 10/20 yards when they were right on it, you could call 'YAK' and they would about turn and trot back? It's not an argument, it's a conversation. From very young pup after all the retrieving games are finished,start throwing the dummy long distances,then call the pup back halfway through.Gradually shorten the didtance to less than 20 yds.Now try it with a second person,standing 100 yds from you send the pup and recall after 50yds,then shorten the distance to
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Which is all well and good, but how do you ACTUALLY train this? If i took your dogs, beat a hare past them, slipped them and after 10/20 yards when they were right on it, you could call 'YAK' and they would about turn and trot back? It's not an argument, it's a conversation. From very young pup after all the retrieving games are finished,start throwing the dummy long distances,then call the pup back halfway through.Gradually shorten the didtance to less than 20 yds.Now try it with a second person,standing 100 yds from you send the pup and recall after 50yds,then shorten the distance to
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Which is all well and good, but how do you ACTUALLY train this? If i took your dogs, beat a hare past them, slipped them and after 10/20 yards when they were right on it, you could call 'YAK' and they would about turn and trot back? It's not an argument, it's a conversation. From very young pup after all the retrieving games are finished,start throwing the dummy long distances,then call the pup back halfway through.Gradually shorten the didtance to less than 20 yds.Now try it with a second person,standing 100 yds from you send the pup and recall after 50yds,then shorten the distance to
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Which is all well and good, but how do you ACTUALLY train this? If i took your dogs, beat a hare past them, slipped them and after 10/20 yards when they were right on it, you could call 'YAK' and they would about turn and trot back? It's not an argument, it's a conversation. From very young pup after all the retrieving games are finished,start throwing the dummy long distances,then call the pup back halfway through.Gradually shorten the didtance to less than 20 yds.Now try it with a second person,standing 100 yds from you send the pup and recall after 50yds,then shorten the distance to
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Aye 'Whereishe' , 'Ishein', 'Getonimlad', 'ksssssst', 'Goneaway', 'Getere', 'Shudup' dont forget "wassupi" :laugh: an of course . . . 'Fuckingittlebastardleaveit', 'Oinegro' and 'Runboyrunthekeeperscoming' :laugh: . . . . it's not racist, there are a few members on here that can testify that he's one of the blackest dogs around. He's a regular badnwhoyjunglist, got an uzi and everything lab-tastic told me once you go black you never go back :laugh: Aye mate, it's the truth, and lab should know Only downside is he keeps pawning the t.v for crack. .
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Aye 'Whereishe' , 'Ishein', 'Getonimlad', 'ksssssst', 'Goneaway', 'Getere', 'Shudup' dont forget "wassupi" :laugh: an of course . . . 'Fuckingittlebastardleaveit', 'Oinegro' and 'Runboyrunthekeeperscoming' :laugh: . . . . it's not racist, there are a few members on here that can testify that he's one of the blackest dogs around. He's a regular badnwhoyjunglist, got an uzi and everything
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Which is all well and good, but how do you ACTUALLY train this? If i took your dogs, beat a hare past them, slipped them and after 10/20 yards when they were right on it, you could call 'YAK' and they would about turn and trot back? It's not an argument, it's a conversation.
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Aye 'Whereishe' , 'Ishein', 'Getonimlad', 'ksssssst', 'Goneaway', 'Getere', 'Shudup' dont forget "wassupi" :laugh: an of course . . . 'Fuckingittlebastardleaveit', 'Oinegro' and 'Runboyrunthekeeperscoming'
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Aye 'Whereishe' , 'Ishein', 'Getonimlad', 'ksssssst', 'Goneaway', 'Getere', 'Shudup'
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not saying this about all collies just some,and its when i hear somthing like the above calling the dog of a chase i think thats when 2 much brains can be a fault in a lurcher ,anyway used 2 go out with lad that ran collie/greys,the first few slips the dog would run brill and then half hearted only running halfway down the beam if he thought the rabbit was going trough the hedge he,d pull up 50yds before ,this used realy do the guys head as this dog could be a handy dog and do the numbers ,i know all collies are not like this,just when i read the above about calling of a chase ,their no were i
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If he is retrieving in the narrow space then stick there. It's better a couple of good retrieves and lots of praise etc, than trying to do lots and getting to nowhere and frustrating you and the dog. Don't do too much, little, and consistent. Use the same command, and praise him. Vary the objects. Then try him in another space, but maybe, in the kitchen, in a smallish room, then eventually move out to the garden. Put your back to something, use the same commands. If he wont brig it, walk away and hopefully he will follow you and bring it, crouch down and take it and praise him and reward him.
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not saying this about all collies just some,and its when i hear somthing like the above calling the dog of a chase i think thats when 2 much brains can be a fault in a lurcher ,anyway used 2 go out with lad that ran collie/greys,the first few slips the dog would run brill and then half hearted only running halfway down the beam if he thought the rabbit was going trough the hedge he,d pull up 50yds before ,this used realy do the guys head as this dog could be a handy dog and do the numbers ,i know all collies are not like this,just when i read the above about calling of a chase ,their no were i
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not saying this about all collies just some,and its when i hear somthing like the above calling the dog of a chase i think thats when 2 much brains can be a fault in a lurcher ,anyway used 2 go out with lad that ran collie/greys,the first few slips the dog would run brill and then half hearted only running halfway down the beam if he thought the rabbit was going trough the hedge he,d pull up 50yds before ,this used realy do the guys head as this dog could be a handy dog and do the numbers ,i know all collies are not like this,just when i read the above about calling of a chase ,their no were i
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So basically someone with a fast dog of a certain type has organized a challenge race for dogs of that type, with a lot of posturing, in a place and at a time that is likely to put of many who would be serious contenders in said race and to said dog, so that presumably the organizers dog will win and the posturing shall continue? And does fens not suggest turning rater than running in a straight line?
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I think any breed of dog can and should be taught basic commands. It's just handy in both hunting and non-hunting situations. Mine does however cock a deaf one if there is game very near and he has wind, or is on the chase.
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or just f*****g cook it like everyone else eh ? . . . . . . or not.
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Course it is.
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Staffys Mooching/Bushing alongside lurchers
Ideation replied to Gaz_1989's topic in Earthdogs & Working Terriers
or an 'Irish staff'
