Yes i agree,mine are only a run or two from being a hundred % thanks 2 being out with the terriers,that and the fact i was... em" snowed in last week" .A good few 6hour mooch`s.last week.There again im not afraid to let mine do abit,I just try to advoid any fast game.I find mine more than able to do a bit.When you think the ground was like a rock in september,and has been for two weeks now,the dogs have to do a bit.