Born Hunter
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You'll all be banging the war drums when diesel hits £2/lt!
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Red Dawn on repeat on CBeebies!
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It’s not the amassing of troops that wrong mate, it’s pretending they’re not there to invade The NATO troop deployments to Eastern Europe so far haven’t annexed any Russian territory.
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Very unlikely we (our UK servicemen, no me) will engage in direct military action. The Ukrainian military will be seriously degraded and will turn into an insurgency. We have provided thousands of man portable anti tank and anti air weapons to them already and will provide more to support the insurgency. Beyond that, who knows. Probably provide intelligence and maybe even clandestine training. The Russian's might be all gentlemanly with their enemy at the moment, but once they have defeated the Ukrainian military proper and move to counter insurgency, there's only so many of their mates t
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It's really f***ing easy for me to say and I hate saying it but there needs to be a military response. The consequences of not are that with this new era of state-competition our adversaries will be emboldened and empowered by their strategic victories due to our lack of action. They'll take control of mines, oilfields, trade routes etc etc and use them to economically degrade us. Then when the masses finally feel threatened enough to want to do something it'll be too late. The skill in a cold war is keeping the military action below the threshold of actual war. Anywhere the Russians are
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You said 'missile silos' and then said it was the same as Cuba '62. The implication was nuclear missile silos, given it was nukes deployed to Cuba in '62 that was the factor, not ballistic missile defences. In fact, the only type of missile silo is nuclear.
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Strategic weapons are for wiping out cities, infrastructure, civilians. They're intended to utterly destroy your enemy and their civilisation. No civilisation, no enemy. Tactical weapons are lower yield and designed to strike mainly military targets, hence they are often referred to as battlefield weapons. When the Soviets got short and medium range ballistic missiles (strategic weapons) into Cuba, it meant that they could strike the US much more effectively than they could with their homeland strategic weapons. These weapons were intended to be part of an annihilation strike scenario whe
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You said nuclear missile silos, and then compared it to Cuba '62. It's got f**k all to do with nuclear missile silos and only vaguely comparable to '62. This is about Russia having freedom to carry on as they want in Europe, not really about nuclear weapons. A compliant Ukraine acts as a nice killing field between them and Europe in the event of a war and gives them a strong presence in the Med via the Black Sea. It also of course really pumps up nationalist morale at home, which a tyrant always needs.
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The forward deployed weapons are battlefield nuclear gravity bombs. They're designed for tactical use on the battlefield, not for strategic use. There's a massive difference. They don't really threaten the MAD principle. There are no ballistic missile silos in Europe, which would threaten MAD. That's why there aren't any! Deploying tactical nukes to Ukraine isn't a major factor and isn't comparable to the Cuban missile crisis where the soviets deployed strategic missiles to Cuba giving them a first and second strike capability.
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Ha, I know that too well. But mate, just disengage. Leave them to it.
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So no nuclear missile silos in europe... Do you know the difference between a tactical and strategic weapon?
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Pretty sure the US don't have nuclear missile silos anywhere in europe...
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You really don't like saying "I told you so" do you mate, I can tell. Very humble in victory.
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To whack Putin? Or escalate the competition between the West and East for global hegemony? The latter will happen eventually, I wasn't expecting it quite so soon.
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That gave me serious Battlestar Galactica vibes. But true enough.
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The rule that matter's has always been the same, no matter how much we might play nice and virtuous for a time, there's only room for one top dog and when he shows weakness or hesitance there will be a mob of hungry contenders looking to take his place. Yes, bottom line, the Bush BS over Saddam set the bar and is really no better than this. We could argue details but bottom line, both cooked up BS and invaded. Personally I think they'll wish they had been invaded by the US rather than Russia, the raping and torture will dwarf what happened in Iraq. But coming back to that first rule,
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There's a little bit more too it than that. Troubles as a result of an annexation which happened a century and more ago. The troubles aren't what Putin is doing now, that's what will come with the insurgency guaranteed as a result of occupation. The annexation of northern ireland is as wrong as that of invading Ukraine. But one is historical and one is current.
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I mean, he literally denied that Ukraine existed as a sovereign state and now claims the justification for invasion is to "de-nazify" the region...... Makes WMDs seem reasonable don't it!
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I said, depending on what pain Russia goes through, I wasn't suggesting the head of the FSB was going to poison him tonight. Literally 100 years ago! The mess that that created should stand as a lesson to the world over doing the same. Since then all major powers of the world came together and agreed better ways of coexisting and competing. Putin has torn that up in a way that makes the Bush administrations invasion of Iraq look saintly.
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Depending how the West responds and what pain Russia goes through as a result of this, I could see Putin getting whacked. It's not that long ago Russia very nearly overthrew their government with a military coup. He's crossed a line now, he's joined the ranks of a select bunch, and historically they often come to nasty ends. My worry is that if the West don't respond militarily, then it will embolden Russia and China to escalate their empire building and then it'll come to a head in a way that none of us could tolerate.
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Other way round mate, he was bluffing all along, just no one believed him.
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Welcome to the first day of the second cold war gentlemen.
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Yeah that was the one I was on about! Whats that, 220? Ive damaged tendons but never sheared one. f**k that, I’ll leave all that hero shit to the big fellas
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Bang on there
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That absolutely stinks of pretence and surely ignores the Budapest memorandum, signed by Russia recognising Ukraine as a successor state. Something which Ukraine will be regretting right now, given in return for the recognition they gave up the worlds third largest nuclear arsenal…
