Born Hunter
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Private ocean liners were requisitioned by the British Gov' as troop carriers for the Falklands campaign so yeah why not.
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God, she must be some woman!
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Fair, but that would be way too easy to test and disprove. Never mind the practical implications of puling the wool over all the virologists and medical experts eyes. So I'm not giving that theory too much credence mate.
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I see the EU have got themselves into a bit of a confused state over border control. One minute it's a bad thing and the next they're 'gently' introducing their own borders. Absolute madness to think that to a huge lump of society the politics of national borders is unthinkable.
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I already isolate myself enough as it is, without rejecting society further mate. Anyway, I can't be arsed to get into on here.
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Neither do the experts in bio-warfare.... It's all spun out of the fact that the Chinks do bioweapon research at Wuhan.
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THAT I'm in total agreement with. I don't like the train we're on or the destination but as a passenger I don't have much choice.
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Wilf, do you even look at the stats? All the countries in lockdown are suffering worse than us, that's why they're in lockdown. Prevention is indeed better than a cure unless the prevention causes more damage. We're doing just fine fella.
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I'm not even that passionate mate. I don't really care if folks want to have an emotional breakdown over this or whatever. I just want to try to bring some facts and evidence to the hysteria.
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No no mate, you're being quite level headed about it all and I respect that. Problem is it might not level off until we get some level of herd immunity as the disease becomes endemic. I see China's daily incident rate has jumped up a bit which I suspect may be because they are trying to get folks back into work after getting on top of it.
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Why's any of that significant here. The entire developed world is as susceptible to this as we are in the UK. If the UK was getting it as hard as Italy, Wuhan, Spain, Iran, Germany, France, Switzerland then I'd agree we need to take more serious action, but we aren't. And I'll be f****d if I want to see the country go into recession and folks die from unfunded services long term anyway.
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Mate, I know I'm getting to be seen as a bit of a prick on this thread but whatever, just FYI there's apparently little actual evidence that hand washing is going to make any difference. This pathogen is airborne and the biggest risk for contracting it is breathing in a confined space with others. Hand washing isn't likely to help, making sure you are living a life that keeps your immune system tip top (sleep, nutrition, stress etc) and avoiding places like pubs etc is likely your best course of action. Hand washing won't hurt but there's little to suggest it'll help, other than give worr
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Like I keep saying, the economic threat is much worse than the health threat imo. Everyone seems to think the economy is there to make the rich richer, like the poor are immune to economic trouble because they're already poor. Do folks think that mass isolation is going to make this infectious disease go away? Like if we shut down society for a month it'll just die away and we can all come out to play again. This is going to run its course and all we can do is keep the incident rate down to manageable levels, which at the moment it is.
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Define worse? It's not even close to bad yet imo when put into context, so yes it'll probably get worse. The economy is gonna take a hit no matter what but we can't just all hide until it's over and there's no sense in doing everything to stop this disease if it's going to lead to collapse anyway.
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It's not that mate. If the economy crashes then tax revenues crash, then public services end and people die anyway. Society has to knuckle under and get on with it.
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We don't seem to have been hit anywhere near as bad. YET. 20 cases per million people in UK, vs like 400 per million in Italy. Is it worth crashing the economy and society?
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f***ing ZOMBIES!
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That may be increasing the spread but I believe the relatively high fatality rate they are seeing is because they have a large number of older people in their population compared to other countries. Fair point though anyway.
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Stats by country. New cases per day has dropped considerably in China. Just ten yesterday I believe. They are beginning to encourage business to resume as a result which of course may lead to a upsurge in cases.
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Denmark have more cases than we do. And wouldn't you say Iran have strong borders? The third hardest hit county in the world.
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I just want to add though that I do believe in trading globally and not being totally isolationist. I just think that we need to continually consider the strategic picture. Are we exposed here.... Is this gamble worth it etc etc. Imo we are no safer isolating ourselves than we are completely opening everything up. We became a great nation because of our ability to operate globally, it's in our DNA.
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Mate! China have become a real issue for me over the past year or so anyway. They are a f***ing savage bunch with some seriously conflicting ethics and ideals to us in the West. Historically they have kept all that to their own back yard and not rocked the boat internationally, just chugged away taking what business they can so long as no one bothered them. Now they are building up their ability to project power, initially regionally but inevitably globally and they have aspirations to start to flex those muscles. Never mind this pandemic, we can't continue to treat China like they're not tomo
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He made some really interesting points. Like how the Chinese markets are basically committing very serious health crimes with their careless biosecurity and food hygiene. Also how CWD is a serious accident waiting to happen, how our critical pharmaceutical supply chains are exposed, how our controls of bush fires has caused ticks to explode etc etc. Really interesting guy and podcast!
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I've got to challenge this though, and I wish Joe did to clarify. He says Spanish Flu had a 3-3.2% case fatality rate (CFR = percentage of people who caught the virus who then died from it) and then goes on to say that COVID19 is potentially as bad as that because current estimates are putting the CFR at around 2-3%..... I've been reading up about the Spanish Flu pandemic to put this COVID19 in to context so that claim had my eyebrow raise a bit. Not denying he's the undoubted expert however so are the CDC... So that's at least a 10% CFR for the Spanish Flu (which is what I
