Got to say I agree with max,,, was big in to k1 a few years back,,,, and all the ex boxers that went in there got smashed,,, saw a few go toe to toe with just fists,, and at first I thought ,,, the boxers will do them,,,,,wrong got smashed,,, think it was remmi bonaski that smashed ex heaviweight Botha ,,, and remi was giving away loads of weight,,,might of fought him twice if my memory seves