yep, i know the lowas and meindls are good, just fancied a change. You never said what style you had.? i see theres a new style for winter 2013 the "Trinafour" and they do look the biz...also Black islander used to deal with diotto but not now. and a keeper friend would still have the B I' s but the heather burning saw an end to them and he swore by them...again my heads pickled as what to get.....it might just be a case of "better the devil you know" and go with the dovre's, but i've always been a twisted c@nt and got to be different. ...just to add, theese will be used for shooting,rough wa