Not wanting to hi-jack the paperwork topic so I will just make an observation it seams to me that some folk who run lurchers and terriers don't appreciate the time spent on training gundogs as I see lots of topics about this or that pup ready for next season by the way I'VE GOT ME TIN HAT ON READY TO BE SHOT DOWN cos I don't really know how long it takes to train your dogs anyway for me the dog is normally about 20 -24 months old when I can say it,s good enough to work to expectation and not to field trial standards as I am not a dog trainer but just try to get them to work well enough for m