For some, especially the dentist who killed Cecil, I think its about the experience, everything, there's just been a guy here transiting through the city to catch a flight south, been up past Nunavut, lived out on the ice for 10 days I think in -30 to hunt a polar bear, can't even take the skin back home as its non importable, he did it for the experience, the first nation guides took the animal, they sold the tag.