i have tryed them Davey and still got allmost a full tin sitting on the shelf next to me here along with the super points, accs, biz mags, super h points and all the others i bought a few years ago when i was testing what performed best in my rifle. most were good at 25-30 yds but then groups opened up apart from the AA fields which i can shoot acurately for a much longer distance than the others providing the weather is suitable and its off the pod. the only time something gets away is when the idiot behind the gun messes up on the amount of hold over so the pellet goes wizing over your quarr