I'll try them next weekend, I blanked today, well tangled beyond repair, had three tiddlers on the yellow/green crays yesterday. They do seem small for the weight are you using #2 3g on the 40mm? How are you retrieving? I'm trying one turn of reel and drop and also two jigs and reel, had one yesterday where I feel the bottom is snag free I just bounce the tip on a slow retrieve... I maybe should've ordered more 65mm I've only 1 pack in green