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  1. They are noisy, little or nothing noise wise between any of the ammo! 17g V-Max (ballistic tips) tend to work best in the rifle, the 20g are usually all over the place but mine just shot a very good group in gusty conditions with the 20g Gamepoint. The ballistic tips are an excellent rabbit round, but tend to be very frangible, the 20g arguably have more stopping power and tend to hold their energy a little better. The bullets behave very differently upon arrival! The rifle is best with 17g V-max in my view and is designed to deal with whatever 17g V-max can deal with. The 20g s
  2. It doesn't work like that, it's down to you and your FEO and the type/topography/situation of the land, many centrefires have the potential to shoot over 3 miles so 50-850 acres is pretty irrelevant! .17HMR is far from an ideal calibre for fox in my mind. My .22lr, .17HMR and .22WMR are all conditioned for fox, as are all my centrefires, bottom line is I rate the .17HMR worst of the lot, yep, even worse than the .22lr! If you are after a 100% dedicated fox gun and you need distance then a 22-250 is the tool, minus side is they are noisy, ammo is limited and expensive and they have the
  3. It doesn't work like that, it's down to you and your FEO and the type/topography/situation of the land, many centrefires have the potential to shoot over 3 miles so 50-850 acres is pretty irrelevant! .17HMR is far from an ideal calibre for fox in my mind. My .22lr, .17HMR and .22WMR are all conditioned for fox, as are all my centrefires, bottom line is I rate the .17HMR worst of the lot, yep, even worse than the .22lr! If you are after a 100% dedicated fox gun and you need distance then a 22-250 is the tool, minus side is they are noisy, ammo is limited and expensive and they have the
  4. £20 - 100 for CCI 40g Maxi Mag HP, no Winchester available for miles round here!
  5. I suspect you will find someone in Finland who speeks English but I also suspect they will direct you to GMK. Not sure if I have just been fortunate but my Tikkas all shoot (but the .223 T3 Lite took me 2 years and a fortune to get some reasonable balance into it). Everyone suggests they are on another level to Remington, and that was the general impression I had until I got one. I have a 700SPS Stainless in .308 which also shoots, and frankly I don't see much difference in overall build quality to the Tikka! Like I say, perhaps I have been lucky, and from what I hear generally ma
  6. The .308 and .243 are BOTH as close as I can measure 13mm deep, the .308 simply made a wider hole, interesting, as the metal is 12mm, so if you filed the bump flat on the back there would be 3 holes clean through the plate, due to the quality of the steel flexing I suspect. The .223 is 6mm deep! This could get deep and I don't know the answer, so how come the .243 with approx 50% more power than the .223 made a 13mm deep hole and wider as well? And how come both the .308 made the same depth of hole as the .243 but wider still, when they were approx double the power of the .223?? O
  7. The plate is 12mm thick steel, I will find out exactly what it is known as next time I'm at the steel stockholder...he wants to see the results as well. Speaks for itself really, but the .223 was a 62g FMJ and not a 55g. Front view and rear view. Plate was 100yards down line for all shots! It is much more impressive than it looks, pictures taken on my phone, sorry I don't haave a better camera and I'm not a better photographer!
  8. Who knows then, either a part or manufacturing problem, good to see Edgar Bros on the case!
  9. This was done yesterday morning and I make no suggestion it is a foolproof scientific test, but interesting. Rifle CZ Silhouette 22" barrel and Sirocco Mod. Figures in brackets are manufacturers spec. Muzzle reading was approx 1.5metres in front of muzzle but 100 yard is accurate. Hornady 17g V-Max muzzle 2463ft sec (2550) 100yards 1824ft sec (1901) CCI 20g Gamepoint muzzle 2293ft sec (2375) 100yards 1701ft sec (1754) Groups at 100 yards. 17g V-Max 1.3" (5 shots) 20g Gamepoint 1.0" (8 shots) This is completely opposite to the norm I have experienced and is probably t
  10. Prime example of why you never point a gun at anything you don't want to shoot!! Sadly, nothing is perfect and things go wrong, is the rifle old or new, has it had a lot of use and was the trigger adjusted very light. On the whole these are very good and very reliable but in the event of problems Edgar Bros are likely to be able to supply parts or repair quite quickly!
  11. The proof mark can be a bit of a red herring...once you screw it on a firearm, proof mark or not, it becomes a firearm and the police must be advised!
  12. Tikka T3 Lite or Remington SPS DM. Know litte about the Savage!
  13. First off this is NOT scientific and results achieved are in my rifle, with me shooting it in a rather unfortunately gusty side wind! The V-Max .22WMR is meant to be fast and accurate and hold it's energy well as suggested by both CCI and Hornady. The CCI 30g V-Max has better published figures than the Hornady 30g V-Max, I have contacted CCI direct and they very promptly responded saying they did not know why theres was better as "they are the same product", suggesting it was simply a difference in the "computer model", must admit I thought they would have tested them properly!! CCI
  14. I have a T3 Lite in .223 and a T3 Hunter in .243, BOTH shoot pretty well and I have no issues as you have outlined. Does seem a shame as the odd bad one appears to crop up from time to time and the very worst part of the Tikka situation is ...you have to deal with GMK!! Hope you get it sorted asap! ATB
  15. But some have, thats the difference. Right or wrong I think the answer to my question was NO I suspect you are probably right, if anyone had been hauled up for it there would have been some sort of a test case..guilty or innocent, in which case a precident would have been set and the vermin/fox issue settled!!
  16. Yep....but that doesn't solve the question of finding/developing the best head and load for different quarry and even target!!
  17. Chap..lots of people have done more than 30mph in the limit for years but have simply not been caught......Do you want to be the test case to decide if fox is vermin??? There simply isn't a problem...ask your region... or simply make sure the word FOX is written on your FAC
  18. In principle you are correct in part, but as above, it seems the DSC is "almost" a necessity in some areas! Rubbish really, as a few days lecture and shoots in no substitute for years of experience. I have NO official deer qualifications but I am an accepted and hopefully respected deer mentor for Thames Valley and the Met Police. How daft is it that the Police are happy for me to "train & supervise" deer stalkers but certain organisations will not allow me to shoot on their land because I have no paper qualification! And if/when you get your own land you cannot shoot what
  19. ring them and ask them thats your best bet. noe one can tell you what you want to hear aprt from your flo Yup Jamie is right there. The hub of it all is that some police areas regard a fox as vermin and some have it written down as "fox AND vermin". Unless you ask your FLO you will be unsure what side of the law you are on. Yep..complete stupidity and inconsistancy in the different areas,...as above, best plan is make a call
  20. also says this the 17hmr rifle and 17 sound mderator and ammunition shall be used for shooting vermin and for zeroing on ranges or on land deemend suitable by the chief officer of police for the area where the land is situated and over which the holder has lawful authority to shoot. The red bit means it is NOT Open!! The Green bit is standard whatever, you always need authority to shoot on land!
  21. Totally agree with SS above, 100g can sometimes be funny, and particularly in the Tikka, fortunately mine seems ok but I use 90g SP almost exclusively and it does the business!! Are you loading or buying factory ammo???
  22. There are no "rules" on this as you can see from everything above, build your case and put it as forcefully and reasonably as possible, and keep your fingers crossed!!
  23. This has come up time and time again and the answer is simple, if it says FOX on your FAC, like it does on all my rimfires, and several other peoples as well, then you can take fox. If it says vermin you will never know 100%!!
  24. They are simply variations on a theme, down to what you want to do with it, and what you prefer, you will not go wrong with either! Never been a fan of the plastic (Xtra wood), but that has no effect on the performance!!
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