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  1. Deker
    Ok Cheers, I see where you are coming from! Seems reasonable, the only possibly slight counter argument (I'm not suggesting it is a good one) is, First grant, No experience...here's a .308 because the land is cleared for it! :hmm:
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    every calibre has potential to do harm in the wrong hands regardless of size and power, if you require a 22cf for fox then i doubt weather mr fox would care if it was a 222 or 22.250 if you put in for a calibre specific variation then that is what you will get, if its a new application they will decide on the maximum calibre the land is permitted for, if that's 223 then why carn`t the applicant buy a 222 instead or any other 22cf for that matter. I agree with that Paulus, I can't see any logical reason why if a ground is passed up to say .22-250 or .243 why someone can't buy any rifle u
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    Covered in #34 If the ground is passed for .22 RIMFIRE then it is passed for .22WMR because that is a .22 Rimfire. If the ground is passed for .22LR then it is passed for .22lr, and .22lr is not .22WMR.
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    Don't tell him you are not interested in deer for months, mention Bigger deer, don't harp on about Muntjac, don't get stressed about a DSC, and be careful about telling him you are good at calling in foxes to HMR distance. You are doing a good job in that post of talking yourself out of any centrefire, reading that I would only consider a .22CF, not a .243! Build the need more strongly for a CF and a .243.
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    :thumbs: I believe/guess the RF listing on many peoples FAC against .22 is simply because of the fact many types of ammo can be fired from a .22lr; longs, shorts, caps, shotshells etc., can all run down a .22lr barrel. Many people do use other rounds in certain situations, which adds to the versatility of the .22lr, so a RF listing is potentially very useful for the shooter. So, not necessarily a mistake at all on the part of the regions, potentially a logical move designed to help the shooter and save them a lot of paperwork. Of course you cannot shoot a WMR down a .22lr, the cartri
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    I run my own Game and Vermin Control business, and I'm Secretary of a Home Office approved club at Bisley, I have 2 x FAC, one for me and one for the club, guns are relatively easy for me to get. Most of my guys have their own guns but the 16" CZ .22lr which I recently sold was a staff gun I got for one of my guys. The situation changed and I put it back on my FAC and having no further realistic use for it simply sold it, that was around January. Strangely enough another situation recently developed and I have a CZ .22lr Style on my FAC as well at the moment, so back up to 3 x .22lr.
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    :yes: ........and they are all 452 of course (except the Magtech 7022 Semi)
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    Cheers, and I do appreciate the comment but they are simply tools to me, just the same I got lucky with the wood on the American, then had a bigger recoil pad fitted, for some reason the stock is shorter on the American than the Silhouette! You can't see the wood at all well in the main pic in #11 above, this is it!
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    I quite like the CZ, for field use NOBODY needs anything more, some just want something else, but nothing else stops more! Top Down WMR, HMR and 3 x .22lr The 16" .22lr has gone now.
  10. Deker
    Scopes and reticles get very personal and everyone has an opinion. If you mean a .22lr anything variable around the 3-12 mag area that you can see the intended quarry with and holds zero. £100 is plenty on the whole for normal field use, but spend what you want.
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    I think it true to say we may all get sloppy with our terminology at times, and the trusty .22lr is commonly refered to by many (me as well at times) as a my .22 Rimmy. Sloppy indeed, especially for me as I run a .22WMR as well. The fact is the Firearms regions are paid to do a job and do it properly, sloppy language/descriptions on a FAC is appalling and intolerable, if they write .22RF on a FAC that is what it means, if they meant .22LR that is what they should have written. No ambiguity, no second guessing, no mindreading. .22RF includes this lot and more! ATB!
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    It is, Rimfire is a generic term for a group of cartridges and calibres, to say .22Rimfire simply excludes all other calibre rimfires, there is a large group of .22 Rimfires and it has no bearing on any case size! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimfire_ammunition
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    If the ground is passed for .22 RIMFIRE then it is passed for .22WMR because that is a .22 Rimfire. If the ground is passed for .22LR then it is passed for .22lr, and .22lr is not .22WMR. .22RF is not a .17 in any way, confirmation would need to be secured for any .17 use of land cleared for .22RF. Lets not start second guessing any other calibre we don't have yet, and I'm not aware of a .22WSM, is that yet another, we haven't even got the 17WSM yet! I hear what you are saying and I think it likely the region meant LR, the fact is they didn't say that, they said .22 RF, that includes
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    Thank you sir. I couldn't agree more, and wouldn't dream of buying a firearm of any type, without being 101% sure that I'm legally allowed to own it. I just hope this hasn't tarred me with the brush of 'another idiot with no interest in doing things properly and legally'. I was simply seeking the opinions of people more knowledgeable and experienced than myself. The FAO and I discussed the possibility of both during our conversation. I stated that I was more likely to go LR, based on all the facts that have been reiterated here today, WMR came up more as a previous experience topic
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    These were my initial thoughts too Deker, just wasn't sure if I was maybe assuming too much. The ammo allocation is for 500 rounds RF. Anyway, all shall be revealed when I speak to my FAO tomorrow Cheers The real tragedy here is that almost certainly your region are assuming too much, not you. In these situations they will actually tend to mean .22lr, frankly it is ridiculous and they deserve a good kicking if that is the case. How difficult is it to write .22lr as opposed to .22RF if that is what they meant!
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    How so? If there's a fox and deer issue (for example) then they're two good calibres to request. A good reason is a good reason whether it's the first ticket or tenth renewal. A good FEO will be able to discuss this with him and assess the suitability, experience will come into play but I wouldn't rule it out at all. Because he'd say if you want to shoot deer get a .243 and you can use it for fox too. If you want to shoot fox only, get one or the other. Quite often you'd get the condition (for .243) that you can shoot fox whilst in the pursuit of deer which rules
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    Thank you sir. I couldn't agree more, and wouldn't dream of buying a firearm of any type, without being 101% sure that I'm legally allowed to own it. I just hope this hasn't tarred me with the brush of 'another idiot with no interest in doing things properly and legally'. I was simply seeking the opinions of people more knowledgeable and experienced than myself. The FAO and I discussed the possibility of both during our conversation. I stated that I was more likely to go LR, based on all the facts that have been reiterated here today, WMR came up more as a previous experience topic, r
  20. Deker
    Hence the wording of my post, I would not be looking at a head shot with a .22lr sub on water, appropriate distance/placement body shot is less problematic. Almost any .22lr round at almost any distance will go clean through a Canada head and carry on as a great lump for whatever distance, even more if you miss, it won't if you put it in the body, and you also have much less chance of missing. A few moments patience with a Canada will almost always present a suitable body shot for a .22lr. Pest control on Canada geese is a job I commonly find well suited for the WMR with V-Max ammo, it p
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    The onus is on you to know the Law and GL terms and comply with your FAC conditions. Why are you concerned about a .22lr ricochet on water, a .22lr sub with a decent HP will do the job at sensible distances with the right placement, expand well and stop the goose without over penetrating, why would it ricochet?! Who knows the actual specific details here but it sounds a quick and simple job, no quite so without an Open FAC perhaps. Just the same, if in doubt, don't!
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    I would take issue with the word LOT! Some do I'm sure, but the fact is, commonly a CF mod on a rimfire is counter productive on several counts. They are usually bigger and heavier, more expensive and less effective as they are designed for higher pressures. As regards definition on your FAC for a moderator, this would normally simply be a slot allowing a moderator to be affixed to the calibre requested, the choice of mod would most commonly be left to the FAC holder! They tend to list, for example Calibre.223/5.56 Type Sound Moderator Quantity 1, what you want to screw on the end
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    Sorry, but I can't run with that. First thing I would do with any gun new to me, (either brand new or used) is clean/oil it thoroughly! Without doubt my .22lr's get cleaned the least of all my rifles, but that is because they are dedicated sub sonic tools, with 100% lead ammo, no cooper coats or HV. That being the case there isn't the greatest of issues, the ammo is slow, lead is soft and the propellant crud is just dirty. Just the same they get a thorough clean as required, great lumps are visible down the barrel, dirt gathers round the breech and bolt, and the claws slowly clog up wi
  24. Deker
    You must have been more fortunate than me, I used to use Eley and Remington all the time back in the target days and they performed well, my more recent experiences of Remington subs is terrible.
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    From BASC magazine...my apologies for not referencing the date, but something I had saved and not featured date on, I'm sure BASC will be able to confirm magazine issue date!. "Hit or Myth? It's illegal to use a .22 rimfire for fox Myth. There is no legislative obstacle to using any firearm for fox control, unless prohibited by a condition on your firearm certificate. Foxes fall within the definition of "vermin" and no court has said otherwise. If "vermin" are featured in the certificate condition it is lawful to cull them with a rifle. However using an air rifle or a calibre which was likely
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