Deker
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Just came across this, I completely forgot I had it. Don't ask me how old it is but it doesn't matter if it is 100 years, they are built to last and will certainly outlast me. It has the odd scratch and general wear marks, also minor ring marks, but no tube damage. What it also has is original leather lens caps and tie. If you want a look, any inspection is welcome before you buy, but you will have to get to me! These are brilliant scopes and will appeal to those who have a love of classic quality and appreciate solid German technology. £280 delivered to UK mainland.
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How many rifles have you broken with "a good file and a little knowledge" Paul? far too many If anyone feels like challenging themselves, my Magtech 7022 has a trigger pull that goes on for about a fortnight, and feels like two sheets of 60 grit grinding together, when it does eventually break it feels about as crisp as soggy porridge...any takers?
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:laugh: :thumbs: Let me set the scene, my lad is a very good shot, had his own air rifle for years, a member of my Rifle club and excellent with a shotgun as well ............. Years back when he first used my .22 Silhouette and dropped a rabbit around yards with his first shot ever with it, he fell in love, a year or two later when he got his own FAC he went for a Style, I was confused as he so loved my Silhouette. His response, "well, I couldn't get one identical to you" ...and that just about sums up the difference..... :yes: ATB!
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Certainly unfortunate, BRNO/CZ are very good and reliable guns, and very simple to maintain or fix if something does go wrong. If the chamber is clean and in good order misfires can only be attributed to ammo or the bolt. In the case of the bolt, again assuming it is clean and well lubricated, any issues will almost certainly come down to the pin or spring, both of which are very easy for anyone to fix, you don't need to be a gunsmith, so on the face of it questions need asking!
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"O" rings are a wear item, replacement sets are available from the manufacturer, UK Custom Shop. Just the same, I have 3 x P8 Compacts, they get used/stripped/cleaned regularly and are all several years old now, the "O" rings are all original and fine!
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I have P8 Compacts on all 3 of my centrefires. They get stripped and cleaned every outing, same solvents/oils/brushes etc as the rifles. Bit of a pain but it works, so do the rifles they sit on, and that does for me. I have no real idea of any accuracy reduction, decrease in efficiency etc of not cleaning them, as I was bought up with a target background and have always kept all my kit clean. One thing I can guarantee, if you don't strip them regularly, a time will come when even a welding torch will struggle to get them apart!
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Whilst it is a general rule of thumb that bigger lenses let in more light, it isn't quite that simple, quality of glass/grinding/coatings/etc., all come into play. It is certainly possible for a 40mm lens to be "better" than a 50mm lens. I am making no references to the scopes you mention specifically above!
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Take it back, explain the problems and ask for a fix or money back. As already mentioned, the .22lr is not a 100 yard bunny gun generally, certainly not for the inexperienced. It seems many zero at 50-60 yards and can take a few shots a bit longer, but if your daily requirement was 100 yards or more then perhaps you need to look at a HMR.
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my thoughts would be. you either deemed responsible enough to hold an fac or not as saying theres a difference would imply that different levels of responsibility are required for each calibre, would that mean a lad with a rimmy is deemed to be less responsible than a bloke with a 308 :yes: As I said, but we live in the real world, and not all regions share our view! We hear tales of calibre restriction/mentoring all the time due to perceived lack of experience!
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Ok Cheers, I see where you are coming from! Seems reasonable, the only possibly slight counter argument (I'm not suggesting it is a good one) is, First grant, No experience...here's a .308 because the land is cleared for it! :hmm:
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every calibre has potential to do harm in the wrong hands regardless of size and power, if you require a 22cf for fox then i doubt weather mr fox would care if it was a 222 or 22.250 if you put in for a calibre specific variation then that is what you will get, if its a new application they will decide on the maximum calibre the land is permitted for, if that's 223 then why carn`t the applicant buy a 222 instead or any other 22cf for that matter. I agree with that Paulus, I can't see any logical reason why if a ground is passed up to say .22-250 or .243 why someone can't buy any rifle u
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Covered in #34 If the ground is passed for .22 RIMFIRE then it is passed for .22WMR because that is a .22 Rimfire. If the ground is passed for .22LR then it is passed for .22lr, and .22lr is not .22WMR.
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Don't tell him you are not interested in deer for months, mention Bigger deer, don't harp on about Muntjac, don't get stressed about a DSC, and be careful about telling him you are good at calling in foxes to HMR distance. You are doing a good job in that post of talking yourself out of any centrefire, reading that I would only consider a .22CF, not a .243! Build the need more strongly for a CF and a .243.
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:thumbs: I believe/guess the RF listing on many peoples FAC against .22 is simply because of the fact many types of ammo can be fired from a .22lr; longs, shorts, caps, shotshells etc., can all run down a .22lr barrel. Many people do use other rounds in certain situations, which adds to the versatility of the .22lr, so a RF listing is potentially very useful for the shooter. So, not necessarily a mistake at all on the part of the regions, potentially a logical move designed to help the shooter and save them a lot of paperwork. Of course you cannot shoot a WMR down a .22lr, the cartri
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I run my own Game and Vermin Control business, and I'm Secretary of a Home Office approved club at Bisley, I have 2 x FAC, one for me and one for the club, guns are relatively easy for me to get. Most of my guys have their own guns but the 16" CZ .22lr which I recently sold was a staff gun I got for one of my guys. The situation changed and I put it back on my FAC and having no further realistic use for it simply sold it, that was around January. Strangely enough another situation recently developed and I have a CZ .22lr Style on my FAC as well at the moment, so back up to 3 x .22lr.
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:yes: ........and they are all 452 of course (except the Magtech 7022 Semi)
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Cheers, and I do appreciate the comment but they are simply tools to me, just the same I got lucky with the wood on the American, then had a bigger recoil pad fitted, for some reason the stock is shorter on the American than the Silhouette! You can't see the wood at all well in the main pic in #11 above, this is it!
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I quite like the CZ, for field use NOBODY needs anything more, some just want something else, but nothing else stops more! Top Down WMR, HMR and 3 x .22lr The 16" .22lr has gone now.
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Scopes and reticles get very personal and everyone has an opinion. If you mean a .22lr anything variable around the 3-12 mag area that you can see the intended quarry with and holds zero. £100 is plenty on the whole for normal field use, but spend what you want.
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I think it true to say we may all get sloppy with our terminology at times, and the trusty .22lr is commonly refered to by many (me as well at times) as a my .22 Rimmy. Sloppy indeed, especially for me as I run a .22WMR as well. The fact is the Firearms regions are paid to do a job and do it properly, sloppy language/descriptions on a FAC is appalling and intolerable, if they write .22RF on a FAC that is what it means, if they meant .22LR that is what they should have written. No ambiguity, no second guessing, no mindreading. .22RF includes this lot and more! ATB!
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It is, Rimfire is a generic term for a group of cartridges and calibres, to say .22Rimfire simply excludes all other calibre rimfires, there is a large group of .22 Rimfires and it has no bearing on any case size! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimfire_ammunition
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If the ground is passed for .22 RIMFIRE then it is passed for .22WMR because that is a .22 Rimfire. If the ground is passed for .22LR then it is passed for .22lr, and .22lr is not .22WMR. .22RF is not a .17 in any way, confirmation would need to be secured for any .17 use of land cleared for .22RF. Lets not start second guessing any other calibre we don't have yet, and I'm not aware of a .22WSM, is that yet another, we haven't even got the 17WSM yet! I hear what you are saying and I think it likely the region meant LR, the fact is they didn't say that, they said .22 RF, that includes
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Thank you sir. I couldn't agree more, and wouldn't dream of buying a firearm of any type, without being 101% sure that I'm legally allowed to own it. I just hope this hasn't tarred me with the brush of 'another idiot with no interest in doing things properly and legally'. I was simply seeking the opinions of people more knowledgeable and experienced than myself. The FAO and I discussed the possibility of both during our conversation. I stated that I was more likely to go LR, based on all the facts that have been reiterated here today, WMR came up more as a previous experience topic
