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[fat man 4,742]

My 2p worth if I bring out a youngster and he or she doesn't enter or show much interest then no harm done terrier either not ready or not going to do the job in hand but at this stage it has done nothing wrong.now if I bring one out and it enters and finds and works its quarry for a time then comes away well straight away there is a question mark over said dog but will be given a chance to prove me wrong but not many chances if it continues the same its bye bye.

[roundmouth86 251]

On 23/01/2019 at 19:43, Glyn..... said:

Ryan i have no idea what you know , what i can see is those of you who keep terriers from the same family have the same opinion so at least its consistent, i don't over face a terrier pup , but i don't fanny about with them neither, mine are walked stock broken all will have been walked up to and had a sniff in holes from 3 months , if i can i'll wait until they are around 15 months to start them others earlier  but once a pup has meet his quarry started baying i don't expect it to come off , the words once its meet/ found and that is the only way in which i allow them to progress is in the finding in larger places    each to there own i won't be keeping your stuff anymore than you would be mine , which is a good thing 

Yeah definitely a good thing, that’s something I will agree on 

[roundmouth86 251]

On 23/01/2019 at 20:07, dillydog said:

You're welcome to a day out whenever it suits Glyn, I've got nothing to hide or fear. Just because I don't expect instant results or legends from day one doesn't mean I don't own one, they all have to have hours in the classroom to make the animals they become. 

 

Absolutely right 

[roundmouth86 251]

12 hours ago, Rabbit Hunter said:

I’ve seen a young dog come away at 14 month old and bounce out of a hole playing with the other dog that was tied up as if it was some sort of game, the same dog made it into old age as a good digging dog. Maybe a better terrier man would have put the dog down immediately?

Macho bullshit results in empty kennels, I’ve seen a dog that was wanting work from 10 months old turn out a coward and on the other hand a dog that never entered until he was 19 months old be the hardest dog I’ve ever seen. There’s too much of a grey area to be making rash decisions with first season dogs.

Absolutely right 

[Apache... 2,588]

After having a dig wth another terrierman a month ago we were discussing how many chances do you give a dog before your resigned to the fact they ain't gunna make the grade, we both said the same thing funnily enough.

[mad4digging 701]

5 minutes ago, Apache... said:

After having a dig wth another terrierman a month ago we were discussing how many chances do you give a dog before your resigned to the fact they ain't gunna make the grade, we both said the same thing funnily enough.

And how many chances is that lol

[dillydog 8,530]

They shouldn't get chances, they should get time to learn and time to mature.

If however after they've been given time and experience and they're still a piece of shit then you've just got to take it on the chin and start again.

Edited January 24, 2019 by dillydog

[WEDGEY 790]

7 minutes ago, Apache... said:

After having a dig wth another terrierman a month ago we were discussing how many chances do you give a dog before your resigned to the fact they ain't gunna make the grade, we both said the same thing funnily enough.

How longs a piece of string 

[Dig-deep-draw-charlie 2,713]

This dog started after he was 2! Was getting to the point when I was leaving in the morning  even the thought of bringing him out put me in a bad mood! Then d day arrived and u would swore he knew, in he went and ain’t looked back since lol but this dog has more chances than enough!

[mad4digging 701]

2 minutes ago, WEDGEY said:

How longs a piece of string 

That can be only answered by the man holding the scissors 

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

Like has been said, who are we to say when a dog is ready? It’s all personal opinion.

I’ve got a dog here that is 7 month old but he’s the same height and weight as 2 of my working dogs, does that mean he’s ready? Of course not, he’s physically the right size to work but mentally he’s still a pup. Who’s to say at 14 month, 16 month, 18 month he’ll be mentally ready to work? It’s up to me to show trust in the breeding and give the dog time to show me what he is going to be. Rather than wait for him to fall at the first hurdle.

[Blackmag 6,822]

7 minutes ago, Rabbit Hunter said:

Like has been said, who are we to say when a dog is ready? It’s all personal opinion.

I’ve got a dog here that is 7 month old but he’s the same height and weight as 2 of my working dogs, does that mean he’s ready? Of course not, he’s physically the right size to work but mentally he’s still a pup. Who’s to say at 14 month, 16 month, 18 month he’ll be mentally ready to work? It’s up to me to show trust in the breeding and give the dog time to show me what he is going to be. Rather than wait for him to fall at the first hurdle.

that's the Difference between a good stockman and a bad one a good one knows when there ready  a bad one can ruin a good prospect quite easy by over matching at a early age knowing when there mentally ready is the key because most are  physically ready before mentally 

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

1 minute ago, Blackmag said:

that's the Difference between a good stockman and a bad one a good one knows when there ready  a bad one can ruin a good prospect quite easy by over matching at a early age knowing when there mentally ready is the key because most are  physically ready before mentally 

For an amateur terrier lad it’s a pretty simple scenario, ignore the big mouth macho men who had a dog from this line and that line and it was shit blah blah blah and instead watch the man that sticks with his own line, always has digging dogs and just gets on with the job and copy what he does. It’s so simple.

[Blackmag 6,822]

I agree my old man use to dig with a few names that crop up on here regular so not to cause arguments I won't mention them but he worked them hard and culled hard he had a few saying a couple which stuck with me  were a dog is either a sleeper or keeper and the other was a working dog can't lie 

Edited January 24, 2019 by Blackmag

[king 12,042]

12 minutes ago, Blackmag said:

I agree my old man use to dig with a few names that crop up on here regular so not to cause arguments I won't mention them but he worked them hard and culled hard he had a few saying a couple which stuck with me  were a dog is either a sleeper or keeper and the other was a working dog can't lie 

and your old mans last saying is spot on BM.the owner is the 1 who can and does tell lies.once the lead is off the dog the truth will be seen.