White death

[Bangersanmash 6,280]

2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

Over 5 hundred yard be a few seconds on good and by 800 yds th3 coursing bred would be pulling on that 

Now take away the good going its not even in the race mate I've seen it stacks 

Instead of talking about it get it sorted out. What you on about 800 yards. He said the first 100 yards the grey would be behind the hare before a coursing bred with the saluki mix in it. Even I know thats nailed on. Now your talking 800 yards.

[chartpolski 28,813]

37 minutes ago, green lurchers said:

A 10-length win over 500m would be considered a significant victory, indicative of a very dominant performance. So 10 L over 250 meters is a an even bigger dominant performance basically a thrashing 

We handicap whippets and greyhounds at 6/100ths of a second per yard; so a ten yard or”length” win would equate to 0:6 of a second.

Dogs have got faster over the years , so you could use 5/100ths of a second per yard, which would be half a second for ten lengths.

Its generally the rule that whippets and greyhounds run 16 yards per second, obviously some are faster, some are slower, but a decent handicapper generally gets it right, while a good dog man will do his best to beat the handicapper

Ive been on both sides of the game,

Cheers.

[mC HULL 17,027]

6 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

We handicap whippets and greyhounds at 6/100ths of a second per yard; so a ten yard or”length” win would equate to 0:6 of a second.

Dogs have got faster over the years , so you could use 5/100ths of a second per yard, which would be half a second for ten lengths.

Its generally the rule that whippets and greyhounds run 16 yards per second, obviously some are faster, some are slower, but a decent handicapper generally gets it right, while a good dog man will do his best to beat the handicapper

Ive been on both sides of the game,

Cheers.

I am the handicapper and a few lengths on good is gone on the slop 

They have no chance of any grew or grey or whippet leading a strong coursing bred on the open wet land mate a few secs is zapped in the first 20 yards 

[mC HULL 17,027]

11 minutes ago, Bangersanmash said:

Instead of talking about it get it sorted out. What you on about 800 yards. He said the first 100 yards the grey would be behind the hare before a coursing bred with the saluki mix in it. Even I know thats nailed on. Now your talking 800 yards.

A hundred or 150 yd slip on slop with a strong hare ears back to cover 800 yds away no greybound born is bending it lol 

Pure greys dont bend strong winter hares on wet land lol 

You never seen a grey try ?

 

[Leo Sayer 3,922]

Just now, mC HULL said:

A hundred or 150 yd slip on slop with a strong hare ears back to cover 800 yds away no greybound born is bending it lol 

Pure greys dont bend strong winter hares on wet land lol 

You never seen a grey try ?

 

MC totally off subject mate, but do u still use the tractive trackers ? How do you find them and how small is the unit ? Cheers 

[green lurchers 17,474]

3 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

I am the handicapper and a few lengths on good is gone on the slop 

They have no chance of any grew or grey or whippet leading a strong coursing bred on the open wet land mate a few secs is zapped in the first 20 yards 

It’s all about the slop or waterlogged ground  ! To be a dominant dog it’s got to be on all ground and all size fields it’s not all about mud is it mc 

[low plains drifter 11,407]

20 hours ago, chartpolski said:

It couldn’t happen under NCC rules, it’s whippet v whippet, greyhound v greyhound, saluki v saluki, deerhound v deerhound, etc.

Of course a match could be held between a coursing bred and a whippet using NCC rules, and it would be interesting given the points system where the “kill” isn’t as important as it is in single handed coursing, but I’d guess a coursing bred would probably win, but that’s not the point, so called “proper” coursing is about matching same types to find the best of that type, as I said, two different versions of the same sport.

Cheers.

Tay vs Sargent in the Fieldfare challenge was a canny example, they reckon it was a second hare that come out of the ditch, the Tay dog ran well

[low plains drifter 11,407]

20 hours ago, chartpolski said:

It couldn’t happen under NCC rules, it’s whippet v whippet, greyhound v greyhound, saluki v saluki, deerhound v deerhound, etc.

Of course a match could be held between a coursing bred and a whippet using NCC rules, and it would be interesting given the points system where the “kill” isn’t as important as it is in single handed coursing, but I’d guess a coursing bred would probably win, but that’s not the point, so called “proper” coursing is about matching same types to find the best of that type, as I said, two different versions of the same sport.

Cheers.

Tay vs Sargent in the Fieldfare challenge was a canny example, they reckon it was a second hare that come out of the ditch, the Tay dog ran well

[chartpolski 28,813]

8 minutes ago, green lurchers said:

It’s all about the slop or waterlogged ground  ! To be a dominant dog it’s got to be on all ground and all size fields it’s not all about mud is it mc 

I used to be a regular at the Border & Coquetdale Coursing Club in Northumberland. Greyhound coursing under NCC Rules , and they ran on all grounds, coastal arable, high fells, pasture land and on the land where the greatest coursing greyhound of all time, Fullerton , was raised and trained at Shortflat Farm , sadly now a hotel. 
Still great , varied coursing land.

Cheers.

[mC HULL 17,027]

18 minutes ago, green lurchers said:

It’s all about the slop or waterlogged ground  ! To be a dominant dog it’s got to be on all ground and all size fields it’s not all about mud is it mc 

Spot on mate but i have mud 4 months of the  the hunting season were talking about mud a real world situation now on the land around me 

In truth a greyhound event  wouldn't course on it wpuld they it would be called off until.the going was good 

 

So that works both ways 

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 3,052]

14 minutes ago, low plains drifter said:

Tay vs Sargent in the Fieldfare challenge was a canny example, they reckon it was a second hare that come out of the ditch, the Tay dog ran well

Yes that’s a great example of the difference between a whippet grey vs a saluki grey on the run up, that hare was given at least 100 yard start and Tay got to it more like 20 lengths ahead of the other dog and kept going for a good while aswell before it pulled up, can you put it up on here or anything, I’ve actually got the whole day on tape I’ll send it to Mchull he’ll be devastated

[mC HULL 17,027]

6 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I used to be a regular at the Border & Coquetdale Coursing Club in Northumberland. Greyhound coursing under NCC Rules , and they ran on all grounds, coastal arable, high fells, pasture land and on the land where the greatest coursing greyhound of all time, Fullerton , was raised and trained at Shortflat Farm , sadly now a hotel. 
Still great , varied coursing land.

Cheers.

They don't run on mud they would. wait until its  good going 

[mC HULL 17,027]

3 minutes ago, thefensarefarbutistillgo said:

Yes that’s a great example of the difference between a whippet grey vs a saluki grey on the run up, that hare was given at least 100 yard start and Tay got to it more like 20 lengths ahead of the other dog and kept going for a good while aswell before it pulled up, can you put it up on here or anything, I’ve actually got the whole day on tape I’ll send it to Mchull he’ll be devastated

Ive seen it million times get any whippet grey ill.smoke.it on the run up with any me dogs now.this week

Edited yesterday at 10:14 by mC HULL

[mC HULL 17,027]

Its common sense anyone been around running dogs like gl.aint gonna take me up because he knows a grey or a whippet aint a hope on that sloppy mud flat horses get packed away when the rain comes 

 

[mC HULL 17,027]

I don't need to see tapes ive been out there with dogs since 12 year old.throwing  everything and every type.at em   lol