Black neck 18,443 Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 18 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Speeds no good without any brain aye Wise words brian 1 Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 11,751 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 On 22/03/2026 at 20:10, Black neck said: Wise words brian 1 Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 11,751 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Incidentally Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 18,176 Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 Seen some fantastic collie greys from a line bred by derek Webster. Very athletic , quick , hyper intelligent and durable everything Hancock’s weren’t genuine top class mooching day time and lamping jukes 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 18,443 Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 3 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Seen some fantastic collie greys from a line bred by derek Webster. Very athletic , quick , hyper intelligent and durable everything Hancock’s weren’t genuine top class mooching day time and lamping jukes Your forgeting about.celt Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 18,176 Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, Black neck said: Your forgeting about.celt Some animal Quote Link to post
Blackmag 6,903 Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 4 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Seen some fantastic collie greys from a line bred by derek Webster. Very athletic , quick , hyper intelligent and durable everything Hancock’s weren’t genuine top class mooching day time and lamping jukes That is the lad that produced Ellie a very good bitch on all quarry that was put to a deerhound /bull Greyhound out of joe dees son nephew to Pye a dog called stag owned by cb that produced it saw some decent stuff of them Quote Link to post
omegathelast 188 Posted Thursday at 07:56 Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:56 (edited) 14 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Seen some fantastic collie greys from a line bred by derek Webster. Very athletic , quick , hyper intelligent and durable everything Hancock’s weren’t genuine top class mooching day time and lamping jukes As has been said a million times by others it was a bit of a lottery with the Hancocks given they absolutely were not ‘a line’ and bred from various different dogs at differing percentages. BUT, I’ve seen some crackers; a lad I know, not that long ago, had a rough coated 3/4 bred beardie-border that was almost competition standard obedience trained, a fantastic proven all-round worker and just a just a lovely dog to own and a great companion. He always said he’d have another like her in a heartbeat but by then the Hancocks had pretty much stopped breeding. He bought in and had bred one or two others himself; lurcher to lurcher, saluki this to superstar that, and whilst decent I don’t think any really replaced that 3/4 bred Hancock overall. It did everything and was ridiculously easy to own temperament wise. Edited Thursday at 08:21 by omegathelast 2 Quote Link to post
dytkos 18,553 Posted Thursday at 11:14 Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:14 14 hours ago, Black neck said: Your forgeting about.celt Cheers, D. 4 Quote Link to post
Penda 3,434 Posted Thursday at 18:17 Report Share Posted Thursday at 18:17 On 22/03/2026 at 19:51, mC HULL said: Speeds no good without any brain aye I always think speeds no good with out gameness and drive alot of dogs havent got the strike either they've bat things up and down a field bending etc and they just seem to make meals of things no good where I go 1 Quote Link to post
dai dogs 2,404 Posted Thursday at 18:57 Report Share Posted Thursday at 18:57 Iv never seen a Hancock collie cross or seen one work I assume they are mainly bred out of greyhound Dams .. I bred a litter many years ago out of a Welsh Hill Working Collie Bitch put to a Greyhound I keep 2 sisters they were Chalk and Cheese one had the greyhound brain the other the collie they came very useful on rabbit hare and the odd fox the smaller of the two ( Pam ) 23 tts was in my opinion my perfect rabbit dog the connection we had was 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 18,443 Posted Thursday at 19:49 Report Share Posted Thursday at 19:49 8 hours ago, dytkos said: Cheers, D. Now he was some animal 1 1 Quote Link to post
omegathelast 188 Posted Friday at 07:29 Report Share Posted Friday at 07:29 13 hours ago, Penda said: I always think speeds no good with out gameness and drive alot of dogs havent got the strike either they've bat things up and down a field bending etc and they just seem to make meals of things no good where I go Agility and therefore strike, definitely. Gameness that’s a whole topic in itself! There are game dogs and there are liabilities. If you are out every single week rabbiting on masses of permissions, as we used to be, you see how ‘game’ but intelligent dogs learn from their knocks and bumps, start to adjust and run accordingly. That’s a strength not a weakness. 2 Quote Link to post
Penda 3,434 Posted Friday at 12:41 Report Share Posted Friday at 12:41 5 hours ago, omegathelast said: Agility and therefore strike, definitely. Gameness that’s a whole topic in itself! There are game dogs and there are liabilities. If you are out every single week rabbiting on masses of permissions, as we used to be, you see how ‘game’ but intelligent dogs learn from their knocks and bumps, start to adjust and run accordingly. That’s a strength not a weakness. Alas the place i hunt dont produce as many rabbits as they used to infact some none at all therefore 1 must adjust accordingly and the dogs I used to run are obsolete Quote Link to post
Penda 3,434 Posted Friday at 12:44 Report Share Posted Friday at 12:44 My dad once owned a 3/4 grey 1/4 collie not of Hancock breeding just worker to worker she was a fair old bitch by all accounts many lads witnessed her catch decent bags of rabbits day and night she took hare in the day when he used to go coursing at 6mile bottom Quote Link to post
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