Personal/family protection dog

[mitre 402]

Before we had our boy we had a good watch dog staff cross Pitbull Great very good for security didn't like people only us did not look like other dogs she would attempt to attack very good 14 years no one would visit us only the GP for my late mom breast cancer we had keep hold of her in the kitchen she didn't leave like our foul mouthed budgie either he used swear at her called her shitty shitty stop barking shit bum 

[gunter 2,221]

42 minutes ago, WILF said:

I know I will get the onslaught of “I had X dangerous type of dog that would rip a man to shreds but my kids slept in the cot with it” type responses but I just think it’s ludicrous to think any dog that you would want for man work and that had a man aggressive side is also the dog to lay next to your 3 year old on the sofa !…….may as well leave a loaded gun laying around ! 
 

There’s a massive difference between the part feral scrapyard dog to the family pet……I have no doubt I wouldn’t get out the car on yards of sporting or half feral scrapyard type scenario dogs…….but that ain’t what you are having in your house if you have even a modicum of sense is it. 

Ino were your coming from but personal protection dog means your getting a dog for the job ino what your saying hit most dogs a crack with a stick there backing off but here's the thing if that dog is reared with family and its bred for the job it'll do that job and protect its yard and kids its bred into them like sighthounds bred to chase lurchers are bred to kill doesn't mean there going to rag kids about same as a dog bred to protect dogs aren't stupid they know 

[WILF 51,174]

40 minutes ago, gunter said:

Ino were your coming from but personal protection dog means your getting a dog for the job ino what your saying hit most dogs a crack with a stick there backing off but here's the thing if that dog is reared with family and its bred for the job it'll do that job and protect its yard and kids its bred into them like sighthounds bred to chase lurchers are bred to kill doesn't mean there going to rag kids about same as a dog bred to protect dogs aren't stupid they know 

Fair but imho mate, most ordinary people ain’t got the time or don’t have the knowledge or both to put into creating a top class man work dog that is fit to be around people and will really do a number on a potential attacker…..it’s a job in itself, everything else is just halfway there at best.

As I say, jmho. 

[gunter 2,221]

5 minutes ago, WILF said:

Fair but imho mate, most ordinary people ain’t got the time or don’t have the knowledge or both to put into creating a top class man work dog that is fit to be around people and will really do a number on a potential attacker…..it’s a job in itself, everything else is just halfway there at best.

As I say, jmho. 

Yes I agree with what your saying I do get what your saying just putting my point across to mate it's not just fairytales I'm sure there's a right few on here at one time or the other had a dog would stand its ground love  you wilf

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,554]

It’s not just that . 

people randomly break into places as thieves, opportunists etc , a barking or formidable type dog will protect them . 

a serious gang of home invaders will be prepared for a dog to be present , a sleeve bite hissed to lock on and a spray bottle of bleach in its eyes and down its throat will nullify any protection dog 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,554]

2 hours ago, gunter said:

You seem delusional and that far up your own arse you beleave your bullshit as I said dogs have being doing the job years still get used for the jobs you reckon it's delusional I reckon I could bring you to plenty of yards your not getting out of the car stop acting a daft lad 

Mate , the lad is wanting a private protection dog , not a tyre chaser from a farm yard in rural Ireland 

if you can’t see the world of difference between the two , just keep quiet . 

[gunter 2,221]

1 hour ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Mate , the lad is wanting a private protection dog , not a tyre chaser from a farm yard in rural Ireland 

if you can’t see the world of difference between the two , just keep quiet . 

Listen you ding there you go again what is it with you thinking no one else has a clue apart from you I know what he's looking and you've come off with bullshit to act like the wee know it all c**t you are rural Ireland another load of bollock talk from the c**t bag again just you keep day dreaming and talking aload of shit been round it bite work protection work I know there's dogs have drive and dogs that dont and won't go the distance  but you keep getting on with yourself and telling people a dog won't protect its home your a shit talker all dogs were made for purpose and you buy a dog for that job rear it up it'll come out of it 

[WILF 51,174]

14 minutes ago, gunter said:

Listen you ding there you go again what is it with you thinking no one else has a clue apart from you I know what he's looking and you've come off with bullshit to act like the wee know it all c**t you are rural Ireland another load of bollock talk from the c**t bag again just you keep day dreaming and talking aload of shit been round it bite work protection work I know there's dogs have drive and dogs that dont and won't go the distance  but you keep getting on with yourself and telling people a dog won't protect its home your a shit talker all dogs were made for purpose and you buy a dog for that job rear it up it'll come out of it 

I think the point Stiff is making is that every dog is a legend until someone sticks a garden fork through its rib cage mate. 

[gunter 2,221]

3 minutes ago, WILF said:

I think the point Stiff is making is that every dog is a legend until someone sticks a garden fork through its rib cage mate. 

Ino exactly what your saying wilf your not a stuck up your own arse type of guy you'll talk about it but you can see what I'm saying....average Joe is keeping away theifs and predators and a dog is better than loaded gun would you rather Pablo the house dog swinging off crack head Dan or walk out and shoot him dogs are smart and you get a dog bred for the job as you say it's like a loaded weapon there's no better deterant or animal to protect your family 

[jukel123 9,833]

Imo personal protection dogs dutifully guarding your loved ones is a myth.

People make out dogs to have heroic qualities, they are supposed to have judgement in times of danger and put their lives on the line to protect vulnerable family members.

In truth that are scavengers who work best in packs. They may have been bred into different shapes but they are still fundamentally the same creatures.

As others have said, even the biggest dog is easily disarmed by a determined intruder.

Plus, they vomit, piss and shit, cast, hump and terrify visitors. So forget about neighbouring kids coming to play. No parent will risk their kids visiting.

 A protection dog is an expensive dirty liability. Part of the western world's disneyfication of the world.

And I love dogs. But I'm real about what they are.

If you live in an isolated house, a gobby alsation in the yard will keep opportunistic riff raff out, but not those genuinely intent on getting into your house.

Edited October 6 by jukel123

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,554]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

Imo personal protection dogs dutifully guarding your loved ones is a myth.

People make out dogs to have heroic qualities, they are supposed to have judgement in times of danger and put their lives on the line to protect vulnerable family members.

In truth that are scavengers who work best in packs. They may have been bred into different shapes but they are still fundamentally the same creatures.

As others have said, even the biggest dog is easily disarmed by a determined intruder.

Plus, they vomit, piss and shit, cast, hump and terrify visitors. So forget about neighbouring kids coming to play. No parent will risk their kids visiting.

 A protection dog is an expensive dirty liability. Part of the western world's disneyfication of the world.

And I love dogs. But I'm real about what they are.

If you live in an isolated house a gobby alsation in the yard will keep opportunistic riff raff out, but not those genuinely intent on getting into your house.

Perfectly put 

[shaaark 11,532]

5 hours ago, mitre said:

Before we had our boy we had a good watch dog staff cross Pitbull Great very good for security didn't like people only us did not look like other dogs she would attempt to attack very good 14 years no one would visit us only the GP for my late mom breast cancer we had keep hold of her in the kitchen she didn't leave like our foul mouthed budgie either he used swear at her called her shitty shitty stop barking shit bum 

Quality post, 'chuckles.'

Ffs

 

Edited October 6 by shaaark

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,554]

3 hours ago, gunter said:

Listen you ding there you go again what is it with you thinking no one else has a clue apart from you I know what he's looking and you've come off with bullshit to act like the wee know it all c**t you are rural Ireland another load of bollock talk from the c**t bag again just you keep day dreaming and talking aload of shit been round it bite work protection work I know there's dogs have drive and dogs that dont and won't go the distance  but you keep getting on with yourself and telling people a dog won't protect its home your a shit talker all dogs were made for purpose and you buy a dog for that job rear it up it'll come out of it 

And a gang with balaclavas on would chop it up in 10 secs in a home invasion with an extendable hedge pruner 

 

[jukel123 9,833]

6 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

And a gang with balaclavas on would chop it up in 10 secs in a home invasion with an extendable hedge pruner 

 

Geez, what an image. You've thought about this haven't you?

[Borr 8,259]

The missus said on one of her early morning forays my lurcher bitch would look after her , I said I wouldn't bet my life on it , never shown any human aggression or guarding instinct, which I'm glad if tbh. The only dog we've owned as a family was a big Alsatian called Jake and I have no doubts whatsoever that he would've dealt with whatever was in front of him. Brilliant animal.