mitre 218 Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 Well least your wife knows what goes on and willing to mention and try and help it a eye opener for all and even new comers that enter that profession and I bet she as seen over the years people come and go out of that profession unable to cope Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,351 Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 It saddens me to say I have no respect for “our” police. I consider myself a fairly well educated and thoughtful man, but I’ve never had a satisfactory answer to “policing by consent” . Who gave them “consent , I was never consulted ? I understand that it’s something to do with the police being apolitical, not favouring any government or political party, but it looks like they are now an arm of government, and who can deny that we don’t have political prisoners ? Just look at that woman who got almost 3 years for a tweet, when members of the “Establishment “ walk free, ( Huw Edwards ?). Left wing , “Common Purpose “ indoctrinated Police Chiefs, Left wing Prime Minister and Home Secretary…..I can’t see the situation improving, Cheers. 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodger 3,570 Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 8 hours ago, mackem said: One minute and 23 seconds between arriving at the home and assaulting the old guy,cops are in court. Moment disabled 92-year-old is pepper sprayed, Tasered and hit with baton by police before dying three weeks later after he threatened care home staff with knife | Daily Mail Online WWW.DAILYMAIL.CO.UK One-legged Donald Burgess was allegedly assaulted by PC Stephen Smith and PC Rachel Comotto, at... Hope they get there comeuppance 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mitre 218 Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 Some of the coppers come down with brute force and don't ask about whats the real reason my aunt had a problem years back with 2 male coppers going to arrest my uncle at the time as he was having a break down with bi polar he had to admited to a mental health unit if they arrested him they would have thrown in a cell and probably set about him as he was ill at the time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastcoast 4,465 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 On 21/05/2025 at 09:48, Bangersanmash said: When visiting our lasses grandmother in there. Staff didn't like me going on a daily basis after work to see her. That was due to the patients that were in there with no family members coming. Were left soddened in piss. One fella was walking around for over an hour with his tracksuit bottom hanging off him with the weight of piss. A went off my f***ing head. A told staff three times. There words will sort it. I had to walk out that day leaving my miss. Then a bought lilly a little glass Christmas tree from Peter Jones one Xmas. That f****r went walk abouts. But a staff member on the day of me taking it in. Said " That's lovely look nice in my home. " laughing. A can't see her of taking it. After saying that. But some f****r did. Because it was in lillys room. Then week after in communal room on side. Then few days after the c**t had gone. Both of my parents are now in a care home. People may judge and be of the opinion that the children owe it to the parents who cared for them to do the same when the tables are turned. I agree, but after 2 years+ of myself and my 2 sisters trying to keep them in their own home it became intenable with the ever increasing deterioration of their mental and physical health. And ours. But not a day goes by without a family member visiting them. Anyway, things are always going missing. Shoes, slippers, glasses and most annoyingly TV remotes. The residents wander around and go into other's rooms and take them. The staff cannot keep an eye on all of them 100% of the time, but they try. Usually it is case of putting the fires out that are burning the strongest. Labelling as much as you can with their names on helps. It doesn't prevent the "borrowing" but assists in recovering items, particularly the TV remotes. Sometimes an identifying label is not required, such as seeing 4' 1" Mary shuffling down the corridor wearing a pair of my dad's boots on the wrong feet 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLATTOP 5,076 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 45 minutes ago, eastcoast said: Both of my parents are now in a care home. People may judge and be of the opinion that the children owe it to the parents who cared for them to do the same when the tables are turned. I agree, but after 2 years+ of myself and my 2 sisters trying to keep them in their own home it became intenable with the ever increasing deterioration of their mental and physical health. And ours. But not a day goes by without a family member visiting them. Anyway, things are always going missing. Shoes, slippers, glasses and most annoyingly TV remotes. The residents wander around and go into other's rooms and take them. The staff cannot keep an eye on all of them 100% of the time, but they try. Usually it is case of putting the fires out that are burning the strongest. Labelling as much as you can with their names on helps. It doesn't prevent the "borrowing" but assists in recovering items, particularly the TV remotes. Sometimes an identifying label is not required, such as seeing 4' 1" Mary shuffling down the corridor wearing a pair of my dad's boots on the wrong feet I totally get it mate, we had a very similar situation we done everything to keep them in their home four carer visits a day but it was that no mans land between evenings after the last visit and mornings before the first visit where it all went wrong my wife’s dad used to throw himself about a lot coupled with Chrohns disease it wasn’t pleasant, there’s a feeling of guilt of getting them in a home but in your heart you know it’s the right thing for their safety and your own mental health juggling your own life and work. I wish you and your family all the best it’s not good getting old. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,179 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, eastcoast said: Both of my parents are now in a care home. People may judge and be of the opinion that the children owe it to the parents who cared for them to do the same when the tables are turned. I agree, but after 2 years+ of myself and my 2 sisters trying to keep them in their own home it became intenable with the ever increasing deterioration of their mental and physical health. And ours. But not a day goes by without a family member visiting them. Anyway, things are always going missing. Shoes, slippers, glasses and most annoyingly TV remotes. The residents wander around and go into other's rooms and take them. The staff cannot keep an eye on all of them 100% of the time, but they try. Usually it is case of putting the fires out that are burning the strongest. Labelling as much as you can with their names on helps. It doesn't prevent the "borrowing" but assists in recovering items, particularly the TV remotes. Sometimes an identifying label is not required, such as seeing 4' 1" Mary shuffling down the corridor wearing a pair of my dad's boots on the wrong feet Stick in their mate see as much of them as you can. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastcoast 4,465 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 15 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Stick in their mate see as much of them as you can. Thank you gnasher16. There is no great drama to the situation now and it has came to inevitable conclusion, until the next inevitable which comes to us all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,739 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 Two scummy b*****ds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waz 4,292 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 That poor man, could be anyone of our elders or in a few decades some of us, sickening. I hope those policeman/woman dont suffer any backlash from the british public, I really REALLY...... Itd be terrible to read that they can never work again or are always getting hated on for the rest of their lives, REALLY REALLY HOPE THAT doesnt HAPPEN... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,632 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 Really difficult watch, and all seemed so unnecessary. I wonder now if a lot of the skills of police work have been lost to risk assessments and operating procedures. We live in such a litigious world, where everything is video’d, and a copper would risk everything surely by not doing it ‘by the book’? Obviously not condoning what went on but how out of line were the officers? Imagine the implications for them if he’d managed to hurt someone. Something I said on here a while ago after watching a couple of female officers jump out a van and head into McD’s, neither of them over about 5’4, barrel shaped and weighed down by the uniform and paraphernalia attached…, the police force and they way they’re looked upon by the public has changed. I reckon two 6’0, 14 stone bobbies, no video cameras, assess, disarm and diffuse that situation in seconds. A police woman in the same scenario deploys a taser. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,229 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 The guy was obviously a dangerous hombre. Who's to say he couldn't have leapt from that chair, hopped across the room at breakneck speed and plunged the knife repeatedly into the caratoid artery of that brave policewoman? They were responding to their training manual. National heroes if you ask me. Damn you THL for criticising their humanity, judgement and common sense. They are not paid to be human beings. They are trained by bureaucrats and paid to be automatons. Now you criticise them for acting like Chat bots. Buncha judgemental twats. They should be given bravery medals and early retirement for courageously confronting that armed desperado. I hope they are receiving appropriate trauma counselling. I will pray for them tonight. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,351 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 1 minute ago, jukel123 said: The guy was obviously a dangerous hombre. Who's to say he couldn't have leapt from that chair, hopped across the room at breakneck speed and plunged the knife repeatedly into the caratoid artery of that brave policewoman? They were responding to their training manual. National heroes if you ask me. Damn you THL for criticising their humanity, judgement and common sense. They are not paid to be human beings. They are trained by bureaucrats and paid to be automatons. Now you criticise them for acting like Chat bots. Buncha judgemental twats. They should be given bravery medals and early retirement for courageously confronting that armed desperado. I hope they are receiving appropriate trauma counselling. I will pray for them tonight. Reminds me of when a policeman was asked, I think it was during the Lord Lucan murder inquiry, “what do you think happened ? “ He replied “ I’m a policeman, I’m not paid to think”… Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,229 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 8 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Reminds me of when a policeman was asked, I think it was during the Lord Lucan murder inquiry, “what do you think happened ? “ He replied “ I’m a policeman, I’m not paid to think”… Cheers. And the case of a cop called to a boating pond where a young lad was drowning. He did nothing. A member of the public saved the youth. When asked why he had not assisted, the cop replied that, according to his training, he must always view his own personal safety as sacrosanct. Hmn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 7,576 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 9 minutes ago, jukel123 said: And the case of a cop called to a boating pond where a young lad was drowning. He did nothing. A member of the public saved the youth. When asked why he had not assisted, the cop replied that, according to his training, he must always view his own personal safety as sacrosanct. Hmn. I think that's down to the individual rather than a reflection of a group , plenty of police , fire, ambulance go above and beyond . When I saw some scumbag filming the XL bully killing that guy protecting his elderly parents ... So easily stopped . The general population has far more to answer to than the civil service.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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