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4 minutes ago, Gaz_Lurcherlad said:

I genuinely think 4 weeks and we’ll be near enough over it no country can afford this economic loss something will and has to put in place I’ve just been to b and a for some sand as merchants was shut and Everyman and there dogs in there never mind shut schools shut everywhere but food shops 

Think thats bit hope full mate. This is a lot more serious than a lot of folk think.

Cheers Arry

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This country will be in a right mess once this lots over, folk will soon revert back to their own ways, nowt will change, dog eat dog. as for me, well its a lovely day here, sun on my back doin some gardening, I got carried away thinking about this virus, so dug missen a fekin big hole, things get out of hand fer me, I can just chuck missen in,

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9 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

With respect lads, what's the point? You could be totally independent but if a proper catastrophe ever hit then your resources would be raped by a million desperate townies. You'd need a hundred rifles to have a hope of stopping that.

The skills it'd teach are worthwhile but it's not a physical asset if you can't defend it imo.

Most townies as you call them would not have a clue what you can and can not eat in the wild. See the faces on some people if you offer them some fungi that they have never even seen before, or more to the point have never even noticed.

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12 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

With respect lads, what's the point? You could be totally independent but if a proper catastrophe ever hit then your resources would be raped by a million desperate townies. You'd need a hundred rifles to have a hope of stopping that.

The skills it'd teach are worthwhile but it's not a physical asset if you can't defend it imo.

C'mon mate... the chances are we will go back to "normal" in a couple of months and every "townie" will be back queuing for a big mac and as long as they can get baccy and beer all is good with the world...

I don't for one minute think we are going to starve and self reliance is our only hope..I do however think this highlights how different people act.... I'd like to think most of us could "make do" and not go into panic mode if McDonald's or sainsbury's shut for a week...

Most of us already have more affinity with the land and sea than people who have no interest in the countryside and what it has to offer...

Like I say, no big changes but possibly big changes of the way we think and behave... little things count, Sid G looking out for neighbours, Ted's wife putting out food boxes etc... surely we shouldn't have to wait for a "crisis" before we act properly...f**k all to do with colour, race or religion either...just some decent morals and a better way of living..

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2 minutes ago, Arry said:

Most townies as you call them would not have a clue what you can and can not eat in the wild. See the faces on some people if you offer them some fungi that they have never even seen before, or more to the point have never even noticed.

Cheers Arry

Agreed, but I was talking about folks saying that there will be a reset in light of how fragile industrial food supply clearly is. I mean if that happened throughout society then yeah great, everything would be more robust, but it won't.

Having a small holding for your own production might sound like a shrewed move to the same end but if the end times ever does come, all those townies will descend like locusts.

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1 minute ago, NEWKID said:

C'mon mate... the chances are we will go back to "normal" in a couple of months and every "townie" will be back queuing for a big mac and as long as they can get baccy and beer all is good with the world...

I don't for one minute think we are going to starve and self reliance is our only hope..I do however think this highlights how different people act.... I'd like to think most of us could "make do" and not go into panic mode if McDonald's or sainsbury's shut for a week...

Most of us already have more affinity with the land and sea than people who have no interest in the countryside and what it has to offer...

Like I say, no big changes but possibly big changes of the way we think and behave... little things count, Sid G looking out for neighbours, Ted's wife putting out food boxes etc... surely we shouldn't have to wait for a "crisis" before we act properly...f**k all to do with colour, race or religion either...just some decent morals and a better way of living..

Agree with all that. My comment was specifically about changing attitudes towards food production.

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12 minutes ago, WILF said:

We are f***ing brainwashed with “da economy”.......f**k the economy, worry about society and culture.

The rest will happen on its own.

f***ing right.... we are all in it together, everyone of us .....whether you believe the hype or not.

It break us....but I've a feeling it might be very good in some ways...

As Rio says, take a breath and a cuppa...lol

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13 minutes ago, iworkwhippets said:

This country will be in a right mess once this lots over, folk will soon revert back to their own ways, nowt will change, dog eat dog. as for me, well its a lovely day here, sun on my back doin some gardening, I got carried away thinking about this virus, so dug missen a fekin big hole, things get out of hand fer me, I can just chuck missen in,

As I've said before...once this shit is done, get your ass down here...I need a hand with the chucks and garden!! Lol

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8 minutes ago, NEWKID said:

C'mon mate... the chances are we will go back to "normal" in a couple of months and every "townie" will be back queuing for a big mac and as long as they can get baccy and beer all is good with the world...

I don't for one minute think we are going to starve and self reliance is our only hope..I do however think this highlights how different people act.... I'd like to think most of us could "make do" and not go into panic mode if McDonald's or sainsbury's shut for a week...

Most of us already have more affinity with the land and sea than people who have no interest in the countryside and what it has to offer...

Like I say, no big changes but possibly big changes of the way we think and behave... little things count, Sid G looking out for neighbours, Ted's wife putting out food boxes etc... surely we shouldn't have to wait for a "crisis" before we act properly...f**k all to do with colour, race or religion either...just some decent morals and a better way of living..

yes the key wordsat the minuete is     we will make do?

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3 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

Agree with all that. My comment was specifically about changing attitudes towards food production.

I get that mate...

But I'm not thinking the world will change as a whole.... people are lazy and generally ignorant (all of us if we are honest with ourselves).

But if people grow some tomatoes in the conservatory, or collect berries and fruit in season and preserve, beach comb, fish, eat the rabbits they catch..etc etc... its small things by possibly a minority but it's something....

Mass food production will never stop mate, dont mean weve all.got to be solely dependent on it...

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Just now, riohog said:

yes the key wordsat the minuete is     we will make do?

Most people these days throw away as much as they eat..my mother goes mad if any food goes in the bin...

Chicken carcass = soup

Left over veg = bubble and squeak

Etc etc..

I'm guilty as the next man of being wasteful at times....but if the supermarket shelves are empty im not going into panic mode either..

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59 minutes ago, NEWKID said:

Said earlier in this thread, most of us on here should have enough knowledge and a little expertise/willingness to ride out things like this...

It's not the end of the world, its almost a reset in our way of thinking though... 

 

This is the only site I'm on. No facebook, snaptweet, chatter, chitter or shitter. Don't/can't do technology. As far as I can make out, it's all those type people that are panicking the most, and making others panic. I might be wrong, but don't think I am ?

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6 minutes ago, NEWKID said:

Most people these days throw away as much as they eat..my mother goes mad if any food goes in the bin...

Chicken carcass = soup

Left over veg = bubble and squeak

Etc etc..

I'm guilty as the next man of being wasteful at times....but if the supermarket shelves are empty im not going into panic mode either..

I was thinking about that yesterday, food waste that is. Frankly, it’s a good thing as in times of shortage it gives us room to optimise and get by. If we were normally super efficient, at a time of hardship we’d have no room to improve and therefore survive.

I wasn’t exactly pleased with that conclusion, lol, but nonetheless it’s worthwhile to consider.

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