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You don’t also get many instances in America of the habitual violence you see every Saturday in any uk town 

 

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12 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Because the requirement to be armed is a very very dangerous thing 

to couple into another thread on here 

the insertion of a firearm being present escalates any situation 

I guarantee that within a month we would have instances of coppers having weapons taken from them in a brawl and used against them

firearms should never become the norm , they should be an escalation 

 

Still don’t get it, the police here were armed because of a terrorist threat which has decreased in the last 20 years whereas the threat on the mainland has gotten significantly higher in the last 20 years along with knife crimes and violence in general and still they aren’t armed. I guess it comes down to what your used to as people here have never known anything else. 

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3 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

You don’t also get many instances in America of the habitual violence you see every Saturday in any uk town 

 

You don't think being fearless of any consequences has anything to do with that? I doubt they'd be so carefree and violent when they know the police are armed with guns. 

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1 minute ago, dogmandont said:

Still don’t get it, the police here were armed because of a terrorist threat which has decreased in the last 20 years whereas the threat on the mainland has gotten significantly higher in the last 20 years along with knife crimes and violence in general and still they aren’t armed. I guess it comes down to what your used to as people here have never known anything else. 

Would you agree that the PSNI has changed a lot since the mid 90s ?

I see more a move towards the gender inclusive, mainland face of policing where as back in the 90s those coppers all seemed to be big old units that you didn’t f**k about with......they sort of looked capable of being armed if you get my drift.

Some of these f***ing nerds in the mainland UK these days shouldn’t be trusted with a pencil.

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Coppers and dog wardens weren’t being false called away to remote locations and being slotted by cowardly paramilitaries either 

arming coppers sounds great on paper . 

In reality it’s a disaster 

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2 minutes ago, Jobi said:

You don't think being fearless of any consequences has anything to do with that? I doubt they'd be so carefree and violent when they know the police are armed with guns. 

Without being a know all , do you understand what you’d have to do to justify an armed intervention?

Fromvthe army  or the police ? 

 

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Take my daughter, she could easily fit into the military because she has the right kind of mindset but she could never be a cozzer........she couldn’t stomach being around such people.

 

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7 hours ago, king said:

I'm quite sure the amount of stabbings.

And random violence.

Is a result of the smacking ban which came into force in 2004 

I maybe wrong.

But I don't think the violence seen today was the same in say the late 90s 

You listen to the old men of today saying about the local Bobby giving you a good slap when they were kids.

It did seem to have an effect.

 

Your probably onto something there tbh mate. I watched a documentary about the London riots and one of the main findings was there was no discipline in the home and so the kids just ran wild and took this attitude into older age with them.Same as the kids at school now with no fear/respect of authority,school was a good laugh and we all got up to capers but nobody looked forward to the cane,especially in front of the whole class . 

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Just now, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Without being a know all , do you understand what you’d have to do to justify an armed intervention?

Fromvthe army  or the police ? 

 

I'm sure it won't ever be implemented, like I said earlier the manchester bombing proved we haven't got the backbone to do anything at all. We've just got to accept stabbings and such are part and parcel of living in a city. 

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7 minutes ago, MickC said:

Your probably onto something there tbh mate. I watched a documentary about the London riots and one of the main findings was there was no discipline in the home and so the kids just ran wild and took this attitude into older age with them.Same as the kids at school now with no fear/respect of authority,school was a good laugh and we all got up to capers but nobody looked forward to the cane,especially in front of the whole class . 

I think you can go deeper than that with the rise of teachers , the standard of teaching degrees and the left wing environment prevelant in the majority of university’s which advocate a softly softly touch 

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10 minutes ago, MickC said:

Your probably onto something there tbh mate. I watched a documentary about the London riots and one of the main findings was there was no discipline in the home and so the kids just ran wild and took this attitude into older age with them.Same as the kids at school now with no fear/respect of authority,school was a good laugh and we all got up to capers but nobody looked forward to the cane,especially in front of the whole class . 

I was expelled at 14 and never went back.

Years later, I was back at my old school talking to the very same teachers that I had a lot of bother with.

The school had bought a load of kit off me and we was in there delivering it.

We we’re having the “kids of today” conversation and they said a very telling thing to me, they said “kids today are much, much better than your generation ever was” and do you know what, they were right.

They said they didn’t ever have to get the police and round up 50 lads who had gone to fight with another school etc etc and having subsequently been involved with schools after that and coaching young people at sport I totally agree with them......most kids today are absolutely bloody brilliantly considering the legacy we have handed them !

The problems in our society ain’t the fault of kids, they are a result of our failings as adults and our lack of bollocks to say or do anything about the main people f***ing the gaff up.

Smacking kids in school has nothing to do with it.

jmho 

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6 minutes ago, WILF said:

Would you agree that the PSNI has changed a lot since the mid 90s ?

I see more a move towards the gender inclusive, mainland face of policing where as back in the 90s those coppers all seemed to be big old units that you didn’t f**k about with......they sort of looked capable of being armed if you get my drift.

Some of these f***ing nerds in the mainland UK these days shouldn’t be trusted with a pencil.

The face of policing has changed here from the RUC days definitely and that can only be a good thing coming from a catholic area but that’s a whole different thread but it still doesn’t change the fact that they’re still armed and go about their day to day policing duties while having a piece strapped on their hip and nobody blinks an eye at it. 

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17 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Coppers and dog wardens weren’t being false called away to remote locations and being slotted by cowardly paramilitaries either 

arming coppers sounds great on paper . 

In reality it’s a disaster 

Like I’ve already said stiffy I understand why they’re armed. I’ll never understand how having a gun stops a cop from being a cop. 

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32 minutes ago, king said:

Well I never knew that.

Do you think it deters folk with the police being armed..

I’ve had the words STOP OR I’ll SHOOT shouted at me a few times as a teenager, I usually stopped. 

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8 minutes ago, WILF said:

Smacking kids in school has nothing to do with it.

jmho 

It did in our house growing up,if my parents found out I'd been smacked/caned at school you could guarantee I would be getting another clip. I did say one of the main findings after the London riots was a lack of discipline in the home so the kids ran wild and took this into older age.

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