Vitamins and minerals

[dogmandont 9,359]

1 hour ago, billhardy said:

All the vitamins and minerals yas need in this atb billBill

That’s the good stuff. Can’t beat it.

[socks 32,253]

Very poor protein levels in green tripe and very high in moisture ... ok as a filler but not good enough to sustain a hard working dog ..... 

[Black neck 15,165]

2 minutes ago, socks said:

Very poor protein levels in green tripe and very high in moisture ... ok as a filler but not good enough to sustain a hard working dog ..... 

It's good as part of a raw diet along wi other meat fat and bone tho

Right 

[Phil Lloyd 10,736]

My dogs are only companion/mouchers, but they definitely enjoy a bit of raw green tripe with their lamb ribs.

 

[Black neck 15,165]

7 minutes ago, Phil Lloyd said:

My dogs are only companion/mouchers, but they definitely enjoy a bit of raw green tripe with their lamb ribs.

 

I wunt try tell you what to do Phil but that looks a bit 2 much for 1 collie whippet

[dogmandont 9,359]

When I was starting out with lurchers all they ever got was green tripe and table scraps and they did well on it, I was young and keen and those dogs were out 7 days a week and never lost condition and were as fit as a fiddle.

[mr powers 875]

Proper scran 

[billhardy 2,341]

1 hour ago, socks said:

Very poor protein levels in green tripe and very high in moisture ... ok as a filler but not good enough to sustain a hard working dog ..... 

Socks I beg to differ these lightly framed racey types ain't the same has a jukel with a huge constitution that thrive on very little even in season,by little I mean has you say poor protein ,it's just not the case I've ran em with tripe couple slices of brown bread  ran every hard with tripe they just need bigger portions a lot has to do with the jukel and how they process snapp some burn it away fast metabolism some make more of there protein ,stab it's of protein ,here we have it we all think barf variety ,but how about stable diet. Modern day jukels are preference for stable diet tweaking with extra portions  some get upset on the mere slight difference in protein  the jukel with the stable diet no matter how some see it has poor will utilise the the nutrition to the max.and that socks his a damn fact. Atb bill

[billhardy 2,341]

52 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

When I was starting out with lurchers all they ever got was green tripe and table scraps and they did well on it, I was young and keen and those dogs were out 7 days a week and never lost condition and were as fit as a fiddle.

Of course your right stable diet and the jukel using it to the max atb bill

[billhardy 2,341]

1 hour ago, Black neck said:

It's good as part of a raw diet along wi other meat fat and bone tho

Right 

You right blacky has far has flesh goes and tripe his classed has muscle meat ,it his the nearest has complete in the flesh range it's so easily digested  calcium phosorus ratio one on one .atb bill

[socks 32,253]

11 minutes ago, billhardy said:

Socks I beg to differ these lightly framed racey types ain't the same has a jukel with a huge constitution that thrive on very little even in season,by little I mean has you say poor protein ,it's just not the case I've ran em with tripe couple slices of brown bread  ran every hard with tripe they just need bigger portions a lot has to do with the jukel and how they process snapp some burn it away fast metabolism some make more of there protein ,stab it's of protein ,here we have it we all think barf variety ,but how about stable diet. Modern day jukels are preference for stable diet tweaking with extra portions  some get upset on the mere slight difference in protein  the jukel with the stable diet no matter how some see it has poor will utilise the the nutrition to the max.and that socks his a damn fact. Atb bill

I don't disagree I've worked rough roustabout dogs in the Welsh hills for many years and fed them on sheep heads paunches and green tripe ( all free from maybaries abbetoir ) at the time. But as you say you have to fill them with over large portions of food and facts are facts that green tripe at best is around 14% protein which is very low for a hard working dog .......

[Black neck 15,165]

27 minutes ago, socks said:

I don't disagree I've worked rough roustabout dogs in the Welsh hills for many years and fed them on sheep heads paunches and green tripe ( all free from maybaries abbetoir ) at the time. But as you say you have to fill them with over large portions of food and facts are facts that green tripe at best is around 14% protein which is very low for a hard working dog .......

What meat is best for protein content I would have thought chicken but could be wrong then you got to think how much of that protein is absorbed 

So like dairy protein is most useful for humans but beef is wasteful 

Don't know how it works wi dogs 

[socks 32,253]

Beef eggs fish such as salmon but you also need a decent fat level which is where dogs get their energy from so they don't burn muscle when their working hard .....

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,480]

I’d say beef mince is a better protein source for working dogs than chicken as it contains a lot more b vitamins, iron and fat than chicken 

[Black neck 15,165]

Can't be going far wrong then I feed lamb ribs and minced throat chicken backs tripe and sardines no beef or salmon tho 2 feckin expensive got some of that salmon oil

Have particular interest as I bin struggling to keep any meat on the young dog despite him eating like a horse