JohnGalway 1,043 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, ChrisJones said: If you like being in the outdoors, for shooting, hunting, fishing, hiking, rock-climbing, etc, ad-nauseum this isn't good news. These are publically owned lands for the public to enjoy. We're hearing rumours, here locally, that several real-estate companies wish to buy up parcels for luxury housing. Combine that with the various commercial mineral extraction interests and you've got millions of acres of pristine wilderness now available to the highest bidder! Thanks Don! Got to say my only link would be from watching cowboy films as a child! Looks like the natural sets will be whored out to the highest bidder to be ruined like the sprawl around the pyramids in Egypt. When will the first Trumpski brand golf course go in I wonder. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,639 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, ChrisJones said: If you like being in the outdoors, for shooting, hunting, fishing, hiking, rock-climbing, etc, ad-nauseum this isn't good news. These are publically owned lands for the public to enjoy. We're hearing rumours, here locally, that several real-estate companies wish to buy up parcels for luxury housing. Combine that with the various commercial mineral extraction interests and you've got millions of acres of pristine wilderness now available to the highest bidder! Thanks Don! Walt Longmire wouldn't stand for any of that! In all seriousness, I saw the headline yesterday and seeing Utah mentioned thought of Chris from THL. My understanding is that it's another 'undo what Obama did' jobby, in addition to the money side? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 minute ago, JohnGalway said: Got to say my only link would be from watching cowboy films as a child! Looks like the natural sets will be whored out to the highest bidder to be ruined like the sprawl around the pyramids in Egypt. When will the first Trumpski brand golf course go in I wonder. I'm 130 miles from Grand Staircase and 350 miles from Bears Ears respectively, so in the geographical expanse that is the United States, this is practically on my doorstep. As I said earlier in the thread the four native tribes have been campaigning for eight decades to have this land turned into a monument as it's part of their ancestral land and their sacred traditions. Don is a real estate mogul. Would our GT panel agree that Don wouldn't touch this investment with a barge-pole? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, ChrisJones said: I'm 130 miles from Grand Staircase and 350 miles from Bears Ears respectively, so in the geographical expanse that is the United States, this is practically on my doorstep. As I said earlier in the thread the four native tribes have been campaigning for eight decades to have this land turned into a monument as it's part of their ancestral land and their sacred traditions. Don is a real estate mogul. Would our GT panel agree that Don wouldn't touch this investment with a barge-pole? If he felt it'd stroke his ego he would. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Just now, JohnGalway said: If he felt it'd stroke his ego he would. I'd go further and suggest one of his businesses would be waiting to pounce on any kind of sale from it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Born Hunter said: Walt Longmire wouldn't stand for any of that! In all seriousness, I saw the headline yesterday and seeing Utah mentioned thought of Chris from THL. My understanding is that it's another 'undo what Obama did' jobby, in addition to the money side? We see quite a few of these on local truck bumpers! Even our local Republican voters aren't thrilled with this decision which says a lot in a little over 12 months. Undoing things seems to be the only thing actually being done. Edited December 5, 2017 by ChrisJones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Investigative team subpoenas Don's family's financial records from Deutsche Bank. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,639 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 24 minutes ago, ChrisJones said: We see quite a few of these on local truck bumpers! Even our local Republican voters aren't thrilled with this decision which says a lot in a little over 12 months. Undoing things seems to be the only thing actually being done. I need to emigrate! LOL 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
green lurchers 16,372 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 least the travel bans in place Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 5 hours ago, JohnGalway said: Sooner they hang him from a height the better. Just interested as to what is exactly classed as a national monument? Land? Is not the word 'National' in this context mean government owned? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Neobliviscaris1776 said: Just interested as to what is exactly classed as a national monument? Land? Is not the word 'National' in this context mean government owned? "Owned or controlled by the federal government by proclamation from the President" is the official phrasing. They're areas of land that have scientific or historical significance or deemed necessary for protection. National parks are generally conservation areas and act as snapshots of the American wilderness as it has stood for millennia without development. The two monuments in question are managed by the federal government and a coalition of five native tribes. Edited December 6, 2017 by ChrisJones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,313 Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 http://www.thejournal.ie/trump-wall-clare-2-3206297-Jan2017/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,313 Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 http://www.thejournal.ie/surfers-doonbeg-wall-trump-3732085-Dec2017/ Surfers to pay for it....Clarexit in Doonbeg....hard border wanted by trumpalists..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 5 hours ago, VOON said: http://www.thejournal.ie/surfers-doonbeg-wall-trump-3732085-Dec2017/ Surfers to pay for it....Clarexit in Doonbeg....hard border wanted by trumpalists..... Is this the dry run for Mexico? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 13 hours ago, ChrisJones said: "Owned or controlled by the federal government by proclamation from the President" is the official phrasing. They're areas of land that have scientific or historical significance or deemed necessary for protection. National parks are generally conservation areas and act as snapshots of the American wilderness as it has stood for millennia without development. The two monuments in question are managed by the federal government and a coalition of five native tribes. I suppose, there's only two options. Either you reduce big government and its ownership of land across the country Or You don't What are the arguments for more land being owned by the federal government? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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