Trump Under Fire

[JohnGalway 1,043]

MAGA, Mueller Ain't Going Away 

[ChrisJones 7,973]

22 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

I actually understood that whats ye predictions mate, just going by the average joes you must come into contact with everydsy?

Hard to call. The partisan divide is like an old firm derby. Neither side will compromise and adopt the 'la la la la I'm not listening' approach to anything that doesn't fit their current heroes. It's like Leave Vs Remain on steroids.

I have the luxury, if you can call it that, of having a seat in both strongholds. I live in a staunchly Republican state but I work in a largely Democrat-aligned city. My neighbours are quietly backing Don but they certainly aren't as vociferous as they were in 2016. A lot of my colleagues are voting for anyone but Team Don. The real surprise is that several of them will be first-time voters. There are also a lot of younger voters that weren't eligible to vote in 2016 and they honestly don't share Don's view of America.

Personally, I'm independent but it's no secret that I favour a strong libertarian stance. The Libertarians are challenging Republican seats all over Utah buoyed by the results Gary Johnson got at the 2016 presidential election and Utah is definitely leaning towards a change at the moment. Our state senator announced that he wasn't going to run again this year and the popular opinion is that the Republican incumbent doesn't want to end his legacy by getting a bloody nose in November.

 

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[Francie 6,362]

The deomcrats in america are vile, takes for instance trump nominee for supreme court kavanagh.

He was just about to be appointed until an unknown letter was sent to a democrat christine, paedo ford.

An now the dems have used this to stall his appointment, what a farce.

Now this man is a well respectrd judge, an ford is a dirtbag, whos best mates with harvey wankstain, bill an hillary clinton.

That says it all.

Its all abort abortion thi is, ford is a planned parenthood advocate, while kavvanagh aint, an there shit scared he will overturn a court ruling.

The dems have f**k all lolicys, there anti american in every way, there a disgrace to america, an im very confident trump will suceed.

Oh an the dems have just lost texas to a consetative haha.

They held that seat for 160 years apparently.

Go trump

[Lenmcharristar 9,183]

4 hours ago, Francie said:

The deomcrats in america are vile, takes for instance trump nominee for supreme court kavanagh.

He was just about to be appointed until an unknown letter was sent to a democrat christine, paedo ford.

An now the dems have used this to stall his appointment, what a farce.

Now this man is a well respectrd judge, an ford is a dirtbag, whos best mates with harvey wankstain, bill an hillary clinton.

That says it all.

Its all abort abortion thi is, ford is a planned parenthood advocate, while kavvanagh aint, an there shit scared he will overturn a court ruling.

The dems have f**k all lolicys, there anti american in every way, there a disgrace to america, an im very confident trump will suceed.

Oh an the dems have just lost texas to a consetative haha.

They held that seat for 160 years apparently.

Go trump

thats the truth.  the silent majority will triumph once again and good shall always overcome evil.  vote trump

[green lurchers 16,370]

17 hours ago, ChrisJones said:

No worries, mate. These are US mid-term elections. The halfway mark of a presidential term. Don's been in for two years and while he's not up for election until 2020 every single congressman and senator is. The Republicans have the majority in the Senate and Congress which has been instrumental in Don's policy being put through.

If the nation still supports him they will enjoy continued support through the election system.

If the nation doesn't support him the election results could essentially castrate his administration by electing people that aren't Republicans. This will make pushing policy through difficult as he needs his people in the right places and he'll have a hard time getting the votes he needs if they don't have the majority.

Bear in mind the current Republican majority was democratically elected.

There are a lot of active voters in the US now. Don's win in 2016 has definitely been a victory for democracy. There are 825 Libertarian candidates challenging for positions in all 50 states. It's a record number.

 

Chris you and I know that ever year that passes more and more liberal fahgott maggots are born and the real Americans die every year more and more immigrants invade , and statistics mean he’s up against it but when the liberal wankers call the shots for real the big daddie if wars  will commence as ther socialist dream will collapse the world  as I see it don is USA last chance saloon the likes of Clinton’s etc will be the USA ruination come on Chris killary was in support of plenty bad foreign shit now that’s not what anyone in ther right mind wants a taste of is it ? 

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[ChrisJones 7,973]

6 hours ago, Francie said:

The deomcrats in america are vile, takes for instance trump nominee for supreme court kavanagh.

He was just about to be appointed until an unknown letter was sent to a democrat christine, paedo ford.

An now the dems have used this to stall his appointment, what a farce.

Now this man is a well respectrd judge, an ford is a dirtbag, whos best mates with harvey wankstain, bill an hillary clinton.

That says it all.

I genuinely have no issue with Kavanaugh based on what we know about his judicial rulings. He is a staunch conservative with a voting record that at this point appears constitutionally sound. We want that. We need that.

But...

If there is merit to the allegations, and we sure a hell don't know at this point, should he get a free pass?

6 hours ago, Francie said:

Its all abort abortion thi is, ford is a planned parenthood advocate, while kavvanagh aint, an there shit scared he will overturn a court ruling.

Kavanaugh has stated on numerous occasions that Roe Vs Wade is legally binding based on its legal precedent and would follow the higher court ruling. His opposition to one case was based on an unaccompanied alien minor travelling to the US to obtain an abortion and stated that the ruling would "a new right for unlawful immigrant minors in U.S. government detention to obtain immediate abortion on demand." Foreign nationals travelling to the US for subsidized/free health care.

While I'm currently sceptical of the allegation, especially based on the timing, I don't believe it is politically motivated based on an anti-abortion stance.

 

[green lurchers 16,370]

Thers a hedgehog lives in my garden with more savvie than these dopey eyed communist liberal leftie soy salad eating wankpots 

[ChrisJones 7,973]

1 hour ago, green lurchers said:

Chris you and I know that ever year that passes more and more liberal fahgott maggots are born and the real Americans die every year more and more immigrants invade , and statistics mean he’s up against it but when the liberal wankers call the shots for real the big daddie if wars  will commence as ther socialist dream will collapse the world  as I see it don is USA last chance saloon the likes of Clinton’s etc will be the USA ruination come on Chris killary was in support of plenty bad foreign shit now that’s not what anyone in ther right mind wants a taste of is it ? 

• I can agree with that mostly. In a free country, though, the people will decide and if enough of them engage the process (or not) the outcome will reflect that will. Only time will demonstrate whether that political will is good. This time around America gets to exercise it's famed checks and balances as popular opinion will decide whether Don is doing it right. That's exactly what the mid-terms are for. If the Republicans hold the majority the people deem him to be in the right or at least heading in that direction. If they don't then November onwards will see how that plays out in real time. We will get the government we deserve.
• Immigration has been positive for America. The difference, IMHO, has been the willingness of immigrants to assimilate into US society as opposed to the European model of pandering to every whim. America still has positive conservative values in that respect and with the constitution, at its core, I don't see much of a will to change that outside of outrageous social media sound bites. Even the leftist of California lefties uphold the spirit of the Constitution if you read between the inflammatory headlines.
• Clinton. Seriously mate let it go. If the people wanted Clinton Trump wouldn't have been elected. I'm no fan of Don but he hasn't done much since he got in. Results never lie. The mid-terms will decide whether the people back him or not. There are plenty of new conservative voters too and everyone seems to be more engaged this time around. As per my previous post, Don has a lot of haters but Hillary's name has never been mentioned. The real winner here is democracy as the current trend shows way more people are engaged in the process. My libertarians are running all over the country for multiple positions and this is the true drive behind the process. Only time will tell whether it works.
• Don isn't the end of it. He's the beginning. A new will that American people won't tolerate the status quo. Rightly or wrongly Don will carve his path but apathy seems to be the loser since 2016. Don was a protest vote and everyone is now aware of what is being protested.
• At the risk of sounding like a stuck record. Look at the Libertarian candidates' core policies and see the growing support for less government and more individual accountability.

[ChrisJones 7,973]

15 minutes ago, green lurchers said:

Thers a hedgehog lives in my garden with more savvie than these dopey eyed communist liberal leftie soy salad eating wankpots 

I'd vote for him based on that. The hedgehog that is, not the communist.

[green lurchers 16,370]

15 minutes ago, ChrisJones said:

I'd vote for him based on that. The hedgehog that is, not the communist.

Lol Chris new you was in the hedgehog zone

[ChrisJones 7,973]

9 minutes ago, green lurchers said:

Lol Chris new you was in the hedgehog zone

Any idea what his policies on the 2nd Amendment are? #TeamHedgehog

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[green lurchers 16,370]

7 minutes ago, ChrisJones said:

Any idea what his policies on the 2nd Amendment are? #TeamHedgehog

Yep hedge hogs deserve more rights than immigrant non workers unless the non workers eat bacon and worms as hedgehogs eat both and don’t demand as much as team faith  and are far more beneficial to the environment in plenty more ways than one  

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[green lurchers 16,370]

40 minutes ago, ChrisJones said:

• I can agree with that mostly. In a free country, though, the people will decide and if enough of them engage the process (or not) the outcome will reflect that will. Only time will demonstrate whether that political will is good. This time around America gets to exercise it's famed checks and balances as popular opinion will decide whether Don is doing it right. That's exactly what the mid-terms are for. If the Republicans hold the majority the people deem him to be in the right or at least heading in that direction. If they don't then November onwards will see how that plays out in real time. We will get the government we deserve.
• Immigration has been positive for America. The difference, IMHO, has been the willingness of immigrants to assimilate into US society as opposed to the European model of pandering to every whim. America still has positive conservative values in that respect and with the constitution, at its core, I don't see much of a will to change that outside of outrageous social media sound bites. Even the leftist of California lefties uphold the spirit of the Constitution if you read between the inflammatory headlines.
• Clinton. Seriously mate let it go. If the people wanted Clinton Trump wouldn't have been elected. I'm no fan of Don but he hasn't done much since he got in. Results never lie. The mid-terms will decide whether the people back him or not. There are plenty of new conservative voters too and everyone seems to be more engaged this time around. As per my previous post, Don has a lot of haters but Hillary's name has never been mentioned. The real winner here is democracy as the current trend shows way more people are engaged in the process. My libertarians are running all over the country for multiple positions and this is the true drive behind the process. Only time will tell whether it works.
• Don isn't the end of it. He's the beginning. A new will that American people won't tolerate the status quo. Rightly or wrongly Don will carve his path but apathy seems to be the loser since 2016. Don was a protest vote and everyone is now aware of what is being protested.
• At the risk of sounding like a stuck record. Look at the Libertarian candidates' core policies and see the growing support for less government and more individual accountability.

Are they tree hugging soy salad eaters ? The libs that is not the hedgehogs

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[ChrisJones 7,973]

8 minutes ago, green lurchers said:

Yep hedge hogs deserve more rights than immigrant non workers unless the non workers eat bacon and worms as hedgehogs eat both and don’t demand as much as team faith  and are far more beneficial to the environment in plenty more ways than one  

I've heard that IWI is developing a .22LR rifle for use by mammals that don't have opposable thumbs. This is truly groundbreaking! #TeamHedgehog

[ChrisJones 7,973]

34 minutes ago, green lurchers said:

Are they tree hugging soy salad eaters ? The libs that is not the hedgehogs 

I'm sure some of them are but the point is that a libertarian isn't a liberal in the context that we use on THL. They're about maximizing individual rights whilst simultaneously limiting the influence of the state. Seriously look them up. You probably won't agree on all of it but there is a ton of stuff you will.

EDIT: The UK does have a small libertarian movement.

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