Ched Evans.

[scothunter 12,609]

Like i said mate i didn't follow the case. My bad i was just talking in a general sense. However to answer you're question. If it went to a retrial and the jury had a doubt to whether he did it or not then you have to stand by the decision.

 

After all they have all the evidence and ins and outs of the case.also have stuff were not privvy to so they are in a better position to decides someones fate. I understand sometimes its not what some want to hear but whats the alternative. Lock people away solely on the word of the accuser and their brief.

[johnny boy68 11,726]

 

Dont know what happened and neither was anyone else commenting.. All i can say is there is far to much of these rape claims getting thrown around. Seems to be after all these cases from the 70s and 80s that its fashionable to be a victim. That might sound a bit out of order. And im not saying these allegations weren't true. However i think the cops and courts are more prone to believe any allegation of that sort cz they f****d up in the past and the spolight was on them.

been a few people who have had there lifes and famlies ruined by malicious lies. Few topped themselfs aswell and later it was found to be a wrongfull allegation. The justice system seems to favour the alledged victim over the accused from day one. Its been a long time since we honoured the innocent till proven guilty rule. If ever we did honour it. Even when an accused person is found not guilty there lots have this "ah no smoke without fire" mentality! And thats just wrong and very unfair.

But he WAS found guilty !

He was only acquitted at retrial because his defence was based on trashing the young girl's reputation, not because evidence proved that he hadn't done it. Isn't that also unfair ?

He then APPEALED which is his legal right, a judge ordered a retrial and he was found not guilty. Guilty of being young, dumb and full of come but not a rapist.

[Tiercel 6,986]

 

Dont know what happened and neither was anyone else commenting.. All i can say is there is far to much of these rape claims getting thrown around. Seems to be after all these cases from the 70s and 80s that its fashionable to be a victim. That might sound a bit out of order. And im not saying these allegations weren't true. However i think the cops and courts are more prone to believe any allegation of that sort cz they f****d up in the past and the spolight was on them.

been a few people who have had there lifes and famlies ruined by malicious lies. Few topped themselfs aswell and later it was found to be a wrongfull allegation. The justice system seems to favour the alledged victim over the accused from day one. Its been a long time since we honoured the innocent till proven guilty rule. If ever we did honour it. Even when an accused person is found not guilty there lots have this "ah no smoke without fire" mentality! And thats just wrong and very unfair.

 

But he WAS found guilty !

He was only acquitted at retrial because his defence was based on trashing the young girl's reputation, not because evidence proved that he hadn't done it. Isn't that also unfair ?

 

But her reputation was not trashed was it? Because she has anonymity, all that done, and the reason it was admissible in court was, to show that she had consenting sex in similar situations after the alleged rape. There by showing that he was within his rights to think the sex was consensual.

 

And lets not forget she did not make a claim of rape the CPS did.

 

TC

Edited October 19, 2016 by Tiercel

[jukel123 9,541]

Guilty or not guilty, my point is that he acted like a hyena. He saw some weakened 'prey' and took advantage of her paralytic condition. The night clerk at the hotel said that she had to be supported by the two men and asked her if she was ok. He did not get a coherent reply. My problem is that Evans and his buddies acted like animals. They might have well as have f****d a carcass hanging in a butcher's shop--she was just a piece of meat to be used and then jeered at and humiliated by having the 'abuse' on camera.

What's the difference between Evans's behaviour and the Rotherham and Rochdale rapists? People used to call the underage girls involved 'slags' and 'whores' and said they deserved all they got. Turns out with a little thought and awareness that they were vulnerable children. Surely the girl in the Evans case was rendered a vulnerable child by her drunken condition?

If people like Evans want to gang bang a sane, sober,consenting adult-fair enough, let them get on with it, but not a girl who could not possibly have consented in her condition-in my opinion at least.

Personally, I can think of nothing more off -putting than a gang bang. Not my cup of tea, just as I could never pay for sex. It's about personal standards. If I sound like a holy Joe so be it.

Edited October 19, 2016 by jukel123

[stevo79 569]

 

All footballers are giant over paid dickeads.

Sounds jealous[/quote

I've got all I need thanks! Not jealous of nobody.

[Welsh_red 5,043]

Guilty or not guilty, my point is that he acted like a hyena. He saw some weakened 'prey' and took advantage of her paralytic condition. The night clerk at the hotel said that she had to be supported by the two men and asked her if she was ok. He did not get a coherent reply. My problem is that Evans and his buddies acted like animals. They might have well as f****d a carcass hanging in a butcher's shop--she was just a piece of meat to be used and then jeered at and humiliated by having the 'abuse' on camera.

What's the difference between Evans's behaviour and the Rotherham and Rochdale rapists? People used to call the underage girls involved 'slags' and 'whores' and said they deserved all they got. Turns out with a little thought and awareness that they were vulnerable children. Surely the girl in the Evans case was rendered a vulnerable child by her drunken condition?

If people like Evans want to gang bang a sane, sober,consenting adult-fair enough, let them get on with it, but not a girl who could not possibly have consented in her condition-in my opinion at least.

Personally, I can think of nothing more off -putting than a gang bang. Not my cup of tea, just as I could never pay for sex. It's about personal standards. If I sound like a holy Joe so be it.

You paint a vivid picture . How much of it is accurate I have no idea

[scothunter 12,609]

As i said only the courts and the judge will have the full picture of what evidence they have or don't have.

For all we know she could have done similar things with other guys, even a jury gets sent out when some evidence is goingto be presented. The law is a complicated affair. Hence why people go to law school for years and years.

[The Seeker 3,048]

 

 

Bunch of f***ing saints on here

 

Hand on heart, I can honestly say that I've never raped a drunken girl OR cheated on my wife........I put it down to those old - fashioned things called 'morals' !!

 

Not everyone has morals instilled in them though mate some of us have to learn them as we go so what we felt was acceptable at 22 we later realise isnt acceptable i dont see too much wrong in that type of behavioural growth......." rape " well obviously no everybody knows that's wrong but again its whether you call a drunken girl whoring herself at the feet of wealthy virile young men rape.

 

Not sure I agree mate, yes we all learn to adapt and understand whats right from wrong as we grow, but at 18 I'm quite sure you know that shagging a bird who is totally out of it isn't acceptable let alone at 22.

 

The rape not rape judgement is to me not the issue nor the fact he is a footballer. She willingly went back to the hotel room with McDonald and had sex with him, the fact that Evans then made his own way to the hotel room sneaked into the room had his end away whilst she was out of it (and allegedly his brother stood outside the window filming it) and then sneaked off through a fire exit door says a lot about his character to me.

[gnasher16 31,602]

 

 

 

Bunch of f***ing saints on here

 

Hand on heart, I can honestly say that I've never raped a drunken girl OR cheated on my wife........I put it down to those old - fashioned things called 'morals' !!

 

Not everyone has morals instilled in them though mate some of us have to learn them as we go so what we felt was acceptable at 22 we later realise isnt acceptable i dont see too much wrong in that type of behavioural growth......." rape " well obviously no everybody knows that's wrong but again its whether you call a drunken girl whoring herself at the feet of wealthy virile young men rape.

 

Not sure I agree mate, yes we all learn to adapt and understand whats right from wrong as we grow, but at 18 I'm quite sure you know that shagging a bird who is totally out of it isn't acceptable let alone at 22.

 

The rape not rape judgement is to me not the issue nor the fact he is a footballer. She willingly went back to the hotel room with McDonald and had sex with him, the fact that Evans then made his own way to the hotel room sneaked into the room had his end away whilst she was out of it (and allegedly his brother stood outside the window filming it) and then sneaked off through a fire exit door says a lot about his character to me.

 

" rape not rape judgement is to me not the issue " .........unless your his mother or father mate then who cares about his character you dont get banged up for being a wanker you get banged up for committing crime so surely its the only issue ?.......yes i agree it doesnt paint him in a particularly good light but then im not into sloppy seconds myself and unless that bird specifically said no then i think we have to accept that she was none too classy herself therefore possibly making it a bit of a 6 of one and half a dozen of the other in terms of character.......but again its not against the law to be a c**t its against the law to commit rape.

[Qbgrey 4,369]

Guilty or not guilty, my point is that he acted like a hyena. He saw some weakened 'prey' and took advantage of her paralytic condition. The night clerk at the hotel said that she had to be supported by the two men and asked her if she was ok. He did not get a coherent reply. My problem is that Evans and his buddies acted like animals. They might have well as have f****d a carcass hanging in a butcher's shop--she was just a piece of meat to be used and then jeered at and humiliated by having the 'abuse' on camera.

What's the difference between Evans's behaviour and the Rotherham and Rochdale rapists? People used to call the underage girls involved 'slags' and 'whores' and said they deserved all they got. Turns out with a little thought and awareness that they were vulnerable children. Surely the girl in the Evans case was rendered a vulnerable child by her drunken condition?

If people like Evans want to gang bang a sane, sober,consenting adult-fair enough, let them get on with it, but not a girl who could not possibly have consented in her condition-in my opinion at least.

Personally, I can think of nothing more off -putting than a gang bang. Not my cup of tea, just as I could never pay for sex. It's about personal standards. If I sound like a holy Joe so be it.

spot on mate,i find that gang bang thing a bit wierd,load of sad cases stalking pissed up birds

[tb25 4,627]

Behave like a slut and you will get treated like one simple as that.

[WILF 50,814]

25 years ago, this wouldn't even be news.......and Evans wouldn't have even been nicked.

The bandwagon of the Jimmy Saville generation......."hello, police?.......yes I'd like to report the old bird who taught swimming down Greenwhich baths looking at my balls in the changing room 35 years ago.........could you send round 2 officers and a reporter from the mail please"

[Malt 379]

Plenty of us have woken up with a bad head and a massive regret about having sex with someone you wouldn't look at sober, years ago you just used to put it down to experience.. The girl was obviously with it enough to ask to be taken from behind and ask for it to be harder and faster, she weren't comatose or passed out drunk.. Like others have said, she only went to the police to complain about loosing her handbag and she came out being told she was a victim and two blokes were put in trial..

[WILF 50,814]

Spot on Malt.

[Daniel cain 49,237]

By the sound of a few of these replies-a few on here have a few issues on how to treat the opposite sex...what would you say if it was one of your daughters?atb dc