pablo esc 1,598 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Brian likes small dogs and that's that , he must of also had bad experience with big dogs too , way back .the selling of lot dogs and breeding soon must have it downfall . dogs like them years ago should be kept to only certain people , not all the ones who anyone can buy . the man also tell you lot of lyers in the game , one other thing I would believe Quote Link to post
rippem 455 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Fat man, how do i know alot of you cross your dogs? Lmao!!! Because you guys openly admit it..and by looking at the size of alot of your dogs..look at old pics of yesterday and show me big pats..there small..you guys keep talking about the miner dog, heck he was a small dog..most of his dogs were small..and when you keep crossing your dogs to other dogs it is called a mutt!! And if thats what some of you want go to the pound and get one.some of you guys make fun of us americans, we dont know anything! The only ones crossing there pits over here are the blacks to make a dog thats inbetween the size of a pit and a pat..they do it for money nothing else..there useless here..cant wait to see the jack folks start breeding there dogs to the bulldog to get bigger dogs..Lol..one day the jacks will be a better dog then the pat because the pat folks are f***ing them up Quote Link to post
dytkos 18,363 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Only in America Cheers, D. 1 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Well he must be confident in his dogs to tell you if it don't work bring it back and he will replace it Yeah and then he will breed of it or from it and so fort and more shite on the merry go round,Lee dont be mislead by the big names in the terrier world,there is much better in lads back yards that no one knows or heard of.Brian has bred some good terriers but anyone with half a brain would have to agree with the amount of pups he has bred he is bound to breed a few workers along the line at some stage,you could put 2 non-workers together and they could throw a couple of workers but the % of non workers or failures he has bred out-weighs the workers by a long shot,again not knocking the man,his dogs his buisness what he does with them and if there is a market for them then good luck to him,as i have said before met Brian a few times and always the gentleman. Way off, if you breed shite you consistently get shite, Nuttall didn't. His line stood the test of line for years and his influence on the Terriers have been an asset. You do know that he bought in dogs from his own line? You're talking as though he bought in any old dog of anyone. Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Like I said on another thread, lads start with Nuttall type dogs add Bull and all of a sudden they are the next Buck and Breay. It's not exactly rocket science and if the dogs are hard then they are good enough for them. Let's see how their dogs are doing in 20-30 years time, probably long gone out of the sport... Quote Link to post
downsouth 8,547 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Well he must be confident in his dogs to tell you if it don't work bring it back and he will replace it Yeah and then he will breed of it or from it and so fort and more shite on the merry go round,Lee dont be mislead by the big names in the terrier world,there is much better in lads back yards that no one knows or heard of.Brian has bred some good terriers but anyone with half a brain would have to agree with the amount of pups he has bred he is bound to breed a few workers along the line at some stage,you could put 2 non-workers together and they could throw a couple of workers but the % of non workers or failures he has bred out-weighs the workers by a long shot,again not knocking the man,his dogs his buisness what he does with them and if there is a market for them then good luck to him,as i have said before met Brian a few times and always the gentleman.Way off, if you breed shite you consistently get shite, Nuttall didn't. His line stood the test of line for years and his influence on the Terriers have been an asset. You do know that he bought in dogs from his own line? You're talking as though he bought in any old dog of anyone.like I said before I know of pups he's bought from 2 separate litters that were NOT his breeding and sold them as his own.One of his recent stud dogs was out of one of these pups although the dogs invented pedigree says different.I also know a lad who was asked to run on a couple of second season bitches that had supposedly had a promising first season.Both were returned within a month as they were useless,One off these bitches was bred from shortly after. 5 Quote Link to post
downsouth 8,547 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Not trying to be a smart ass fat man, but what have you done to better the breed? Amd what makes you or your buddies dogs any bettter? Just curious because that mans faimly has done alot for the bred. So to say because he sells pups that his dogs are no good is b.s. in my book. So what a man is supposed to breed his dogs just to gift them out? Lol..looks like a beggers move to me.i have some of the tightest skull/maverick blood over here and if your not part of my camp or paying for it plan and simple. And if you buy pup from anyone, you have a 50/50 chance of it not working thats a chance we all take when we buy untested dog..and for you guys who outcross this to that,that tells everyone there is no consistency in your dogs..thats commen sense..There's a difference between having a litter to produce a pup or two for yourself and selling the extra pups and producing multiple litters for profit. 4 Quote Link to post
rippem 455 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Anytime you keep crossing your loosing traits. And anytime you do a cross you dont know how there gonna turn out..rather they work lack mouth lack wind or whatever..and most breed off someones line of dog then bred them and became the better breeder then who they got them from..but in fact most cant even keep the line up to par.. Quote Link to post
Dead Eyes 681 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Out of interest, does anyone have any pics of his current stock they own, or current stud(s)? Quote Link to post
rippem 455 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Downsouth,thers folks over here who sell there pats at a ridiculous amount and have a 5 year waiting list..do i agree with that? No of course not. But it doesnt mean there producing shit. If the blood line was kept right and the dogs are tested who cares if he sells them..and sorry not every pup will make the grade. Thats what sucks about buying pups and not tested dogs.its rolling the dice..simple as that..if i have a litter of 10 do you think the whole litter will make the grade? If yu do your sadly mistaken.. Quote Link to post
rippem 455 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Out of interest, does anyone have any pics of his current stock they own, or current stud(s)? NICE! Lets see who does seeing so many claim they were just there not to long ago and claim to know him..i bet there will be alot of b.s. pics thrown up or better yet none..L 1 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) Well he must be confident in his dogs to tell you if it don't work bring it back and he will replace it Yeah and then he will breed of it or from it and so fort and more shite on the merry go round,Lee dont be mislead by the big names in the terrier world,there is much better in lads back yards that no one knows or heard of.Brian has bred some good terriers but anyone with half a brain would have to agree with the amount of pups he has bred he is bound to breed a few workers along the line at some stage,you could put 2 non-workers together and they could throw a couple of workers but the % of non workers or failures he has bred out-weighs the workers by a long shot,again not knocking the man,his dogs his buisness what he does with them and if there is a market for them then good luck to him,as i have said before met Brian a few times and always the gentleman.Way off, if you breed shite you consistently get shite, Nuttall didn't. His line stood the test of line for years and his influence on the Terriers have been an asset. You do know that he bought in dogs from his own line? You're talking as though he bought in any old dog of anyone.like I said before I know of pups he's bought from 2 separate litters that were NOT his breeding and sold them as his own.One of his recent stud dogs was out of one of these pups although the dogs invented pedigree says different.I also know a lad who was asked to run on a couple of second season bitches that had supposedly had a promising first season.Both were returned within a month as they were useless,One off these bitches was bred from shortly after.I know a bloke local to me who Brain kept in contact with to see what he had on, sometimes he'd buy them in off him but the dogs went all back to him anyway so I don't see the problem. Which dogs are you talking about and what bloodline are they from? Edited September 24, 2016 by DogFox123 Quote Link to post
jiggy 3,209 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 If he breeds dogs and bitchs in large quantitys he will quickly hear reports on which are the top producing sires/dams and which are muck i bet if he wanted to give someone close a decent bred pup he would know which to give them, but the lads at the bottom of the cue will recieve the wastage. 3 Quote Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Not trying to be a smart ass fat man, but what have you done to better the breed? Amd what makes you or your buddies dogs any bettter? Just curious because that mans faimly has done alot for the bred. So to say because he sells pups that his dogs are no good is b.s. in my book. So what a man is supposed to breed his dogs just to gift them out? Lol..looks like a beggers move to me.i have some of the tightest skull/maverick blood over here and if your not part of my camp or paying for it plan and simple. And if you buy pup from anyone, you have a 50/50 chance of it not working thats a chance we all take when we buy untested dog..and for you guys who outcross this to that,that tells everyone there is no consistency in your dogs..thats commen sense..Nuttall has done a lot but, the lads behind the scenes, who don't seek attention have done a lot to improve their chosen line. it's just you Americans don't know them and never will. If they don't seek recognition people like you won't know them. 4 Quote Link to post
rippem 455 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 I dont disagree with you that there is good guys that stay by themselves and keep there dogs to themselves. But i seriously doubt there on here. And they did start there lines off of someones elses dogs. Quote Link to post
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