desertbred 5,490 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 The eu has stopped us deporting Muslim radicals, and alot of the migrants flooding across the eu are Muslims. I think an eu exit won't help though as we will still have spineless politicians Not it hasn't. The ECHR has stopped radicals being deported but that's a seperate thing to the EU... BGD you know your pissing on their chips pointing out these facts . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
treecreeper 1,136 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 So if we ain't in the eu then will the echr not mean fook all if we are not a member state? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 I don't think anything will happen to them. They will no doubt be given grandfather rights to carry on living here. Hopefully we might be able to boot some of the criminals out that the EU courts seem to want to protect so much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,437 Posted June 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 So if we ain't in the eu then will the echr not mean fook all if we are not a member state? It's a completely separate entity to the EU, we're signatories to the ECHR and that won't change just by leaving the EU. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,864 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 So if we ain't in the eu then will the echr not mean fook all if we are not a member state?It's a completely separate entity to the EU, we're signatories to the ECHR and that won't change just by leaving the EU. I didn't know that. Let's hope it's the start of a change even you know needs to happen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 So if we ain't in the eu then will the echr not mean fook all if we are not a member state? It's a completely separate entity to the EU, we're signatories to the ECHR and that won't change just by leaving the EU. Was there not talk not so long ago about us opting out of the ECHR? About the same time as hook hand could not be deported? TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,437 Posted June 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 So if we ain't in the eu then will the echr not mean fook all if we are not a member state?It's a completely separate entity to the EU, we're signatories to the ECHR and that won't change just by leaving the EU.I didn't know that. Let's hope it's the start of a change even you know needs to happen I wouldn't be voting Leave if I thought it could result in Britain not being signatory to the ECHR pal... You realise the only European state that isn't signatory to it is Belarus right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,437 Posted June 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 So if we ain't in the eu then will the echr not mean fook all if we are not a member state?It's a completely separate entity to the EU, we're signatories to the ECHR and that won't change just by leaving the EU. Was there not talk not so long ago about us opting out of the ECHR? About the same time as hook hand could not be deported? TC It was proposed but quickly shelved because it would never pass the commons. The effect on the Good Friday Agreement alone would be disastrous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Well I'm hoping we can now start actually running our own country the way we want it without any outside interference. I hope we can get rid of any wannabee terrorist and then close the doors on anyone coming here till we have set rules in place.....something similar to the Australian way of doing. With the influx of others not coming here plus the money we would no longer dish out to Europe I'd hope jobs would be more abundant. Not expecting it over night but it would be a push in the right direction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 14,163 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 That's another thing about leave BGD I'll say this though the ECHR's decisions are only enshrined and enforced under UK law because of membership. We had out own HR laws before that were literally set in stone and liberated many nations and peoples' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 14,163 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 And yes I am voting leave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,437 Posted June 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) That's another thing about leave BGD I'll say this though the ECHR's decisions are only enshrined and enforced under UK law because of membership. We had out own HR laws before that were literally set in stone and liberated many nations and peoples' Yes the European Court of Human Rights decisions are enshrined in UK law because we're signatories to the European Convention on Human Rights (who's idea was it to name them so the acronyms for both were the same ). That's just how all international works though, it only means anything to the states that have signed up to the treaties and conventions. Edited June 14, 2016 by BGD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,884 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 The eu has stopped us deporting Muslim radicals, and alot of the migrants flooding across the eu are Muslims. I think an eu exit won't help though as we will still have spineless politicians Not it hasn't. The ECHR has stopped radicals being deported but that's a seperate thing to the EU... BGD you know your pissing on their chips pointing out these facts . They won't be able to boot you out as you are half ulsterman anyway!!......so you can continue to scare Jews and innocent shop goers till the cows come home ! Lol lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,437 Posted June 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 The eu has stopped us deporting Muslim radicals, and alot of the migrants flooding across the eu are Muslims. I think an eu exit won't help though as we will still have spineless politicians Not it hasn't. The ECHR has stopped radicals being deported but that's a seperate thing to the EU... BGD you know your pissing on their chips pointing out these facts .They won't be able to boot you out as you are half ulsterman anyway!!......so you can continue to scare Jews and innocent shop goers till the cows come home ! Lol lol DB's rug business is vital to the UK economy, no fecking way he'd be turfed out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,625 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Even if there is enough votes to get USS out/I cannot see anything happening for a long time it will be a long drawn out affair Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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