The Brown Rat

[keith j 1,088]

1 hour ago, foxdropper said:

Nice one Keith .We just picked up a pig farm but the farmer as usual was exaggerating on numbers .We've had two lots of 20 and now the place is quiet .Chicken farm nearby so hopefully get that as well .Ratting very good for keeping dogs fit and alert .

Aye Tim, find that with a lot of folk see a few about and it's lifting lol.Get it off alot of people..It certainly keeps the dogs fit and keen..Thats why I try and dig a lot out with my dogs bit of work out for them atb keith j. 

Edited December 14, 2017 by keith j

[keith j 1,088]

1 hour ago, forest of dean redneck said:

Always good to see the collie out.

She dose well bud.Kills and catches rats as good as my terriers. Had couple good night's on mòors for rabbits , she nailed 24 and palls collie  another 12,36 not bad for collies and this is not a one off.alb Keith j. 

Edited December 14, 2017 by keith j

[Hatch28 240]

2 hours ago, keith j said:

She dose well bud.Kills and catches rats as good as my terriers. Had couple good night's on mòors for rabbits , she nailed 24 and palls collie  another 12,36 not bad for collies and this is not a one off.alb Keith j. 

Not many Lamping pure collies ever try them on fox.

[forest of dean redneck 11,190]

3 hours ago, keith j said:

She dose well bud.Kills and catches rats as good as my terriers. Had couple good night's on mòors for rabbits , she nailed 24 and palls collie  another 12,36 not bad for collies and this is not a one off.alb Keith j. 

I was reading about the settlers out in America that kept old English shepherds (collies)

an used them for pest control as they only had or could keep 1 dog

Pics of them coon hunting at night etc

often kick myself for not trying a collie instead of the labradoodle pup I bought 2 year ago.

[neil cooney 10,415]

20 minutes ago, forest of dean redneck said:

I was reading about the settlers out in America that kept old English shepherds (collies)

an used them for pest control as they only had or could keep 1 dog

Pics of them coon hunting at night etc

often kick myself for not trying a collie instead of the labradoodle pup I bought 2 year ago.

Take the Wheaten terrier for example. It was a dog used for herding and vermin control and if the history books are correct it was a terrier also used to see who had the toughest dog in the locality because a bit of lighthearted dog fighting would take place among those in the local area. It was the same with most of the Irish breeds and only when breeding got refined did the cream rise to the top. Back in the hard old times it was easier to feed one all round dog than several specialists and a lot of those American settlers were Irish too.

[forest of dean redneck 11,190]

1 minute ago, neil cooney said:

Take the Wheaten terrier for example. It was a dog used for herding and vermin control and if the history books are correct it was a terrier also used to see who had the toughest dog in the locality because a bit of lighthearted dog fighting would take place among those in the local area. It was the same with most of the Irish breeds and only when breeding got refined did the cream rise to the top. Back in the hard old times it was easier to feed one all round dog than several specialists and a lot of those American settlers were Irish too.

Yes I noticed that whilst reading about Irish dogs including the teagle.

[Saltmoon 2,208]

This could be the most ridiculous question ever asked but I'm going to ask anyway ? I've got a Springer and a sprocker at home Springer bang on beating dog however sprocker likes to do his own thing so not much good in way of beating but I've kept him anyway. I've read statements on here that most dogs can become ratters if so could my sprocker do So? He loves digging up the field mice burrows and had a few of them just got me wondering about him really. I want to find him work that he likes as beating just dosnt suit him and I'm not one to beat it in to a dog. I'll await the abuse for a silly question ?

[neil cooney 10,415]

35 minutes ago, Saltmoon said:

This could be the most ridiculous question ever asked but I'm going to ask anyway ? I've got a Springer and a sprocker at home Springer bang on beating dog however sprocker likes to do his own thing so not much good in way of beating but I've kept him anyway. I've read statements on here that most dogs can become ratters if so could my sprocker do So? He loves digging up the field mice burrows and had a few of them just got me wondering about him really. I want to find him work that he likes as beating just dosnt suit him and I'm not one to beat it in to a dog. I'll await the abuse for a silly question ?

I had a Springer who was a demon on rats. She was an excellent gundog but the rats did make her a wee bit hard mouthed. My fault completely.

[Saltmoon 2,208]

6 minutes ago, neil cooney said:

I had a Springer who was a demon on rats. She was an excellent gundog but the rats did make her a wee bit hard mouthed. My fault completely.

He's hard mouthed anyway so that shouldn't be a problem. Cheers lads I'll have a yap with a few farmers and see what he dose. 

[howdeeposxxt 1,448]

Have any of ye used a the springer for flushing and marking fox??

[foxdropper 17,092]

9 hours ago, Saltmoon said:

He's hard mouthed anyway so that shouldn't be a problem. Cheers lads I'll have a yap with a few farmers and see what he dose. 

What part of the South West are you mate .Next time they pull a shed you are welcome to bring the spano if hes' dog friendly that is .

[Saltmoon 2,208]

I'm way down just outside of plymouth anywhere near?? Thank you for the offer. Yeah he's good as gold with other dogs 

[neil cooney 10,415]

15 hours ago, howdeeposxxt said:

Have any of ye used a the springer for flushing and marking fox??

The lad I shoot with every Sunday has a Springer who's class at hunting a foxes line and marking him and will go in a couple of body lengths if possible. But she's mute. Fatman used to have Springer years ago who'd let a few yips out of her if there was a fox in a bog etc. and was never wrong.

[foxdropper 17,092]

8 hours ago, Saltmoon said:

I'm way down just outside of plymouth anywhere near?? Thank you for the offer. Yeah he's good as gold with other dogs 

Oh right mate, I'm in Wiltshire miles away .

[howdeeposxxt 1,448]

3 hours ago, neil cooney said:

The lad I shoot with every Sunday has a Springer who's class at hunting a foxes line and marking him and will go in a couple of body lengths if possible. But she's mute. Fatman used to have Springer years ago who'd let a few yips out of her if there was a fox in a bog etc. and was never wrong.

I have a young dog here 11 months and is starting to rag fox. I'm going ta give him a shot and see how he goes after xmas. I'll work him with me auld  bitch along a few double ditches if any thing goes to ground or is below she ll get em. Hopefully I'll tune him into the red fellas. In time he may be a good asset and get a bit more digging threw this method.